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To: MWS

MWS, thanks for your anti-Newtisms as it fired me up to do some hard thinking about great leaders. With a little time I could research this better, but briefly, here goes:

David (of the Old Testament) - Committed adultery and sent the woman’s husband to the front lines so he would be killed.

Solomon - Had hundreds and hundreds (I forget how many) of wives and concubines.

Churchill - Responsible for the deaths of more than 30,000 men at Gallipoli (World War I).

Roosevelt - Personally approved Operation Keelhaul, which forcibly sent hundreds of thousands of Soviet citizens back to Russia to be killed. You should see the old movie, “Red Danube” - it’ll break your heart.

And last but not least, my personal hero Reagan actually signed a pro-abortion bill while governor of California.

Nobody’s perfect. Right now, I would vote for the devil himself if he could save America.


78 posted on 01/15/2012 8:35:08 AM PST by Liberty Wins
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To: Liberty Wins
Let me make it clear that I'm not opposed to Newt. I have said repeatedly that he is probably our best shot amidst a weak field of candidates.

What I have cautioned against, however, is fawning him in the manner which liberals fawned over Obama... which is what I'm seeing a lot of in this thread. Yes, the man is good with words -- but I think it's a crying shame that he's the best we have to offer this time around.

Gingrich is no King David. He's no Solomon or Churchill either. He sure as heck isn't a Reagan. This level of Gingrich worship is starting to approach levels I previously thought reserved for the likes of Obama and Paul. Gingrich is a flawed yet intelligent man with some good ideas and who is probably the best candidate in the running this time around. He can have my grudging support but he'll have to earn my respect and trust. That's how it should be with any candidate, in my opinion.

And I'd be weary of anyone who would deal with the devil to save a worldly realm. You can't serve both God and mammon. Thankfully, Newt is certainly not the devil.

80 posted on 01/15/2012 8:48:52 AM PST by MWS
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