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To: xzins; P-Marlowe; wmfights; 1010RD; chuckee; VinL; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; Jim Robinson

Do you realize that Dade Behring was a huge success story? The bankruptcy filing was only temporary. The company boomed after that. When they were finally sold to Siemens in 2007, they employed over 6,000 people. They boasted worldwide sales of $1.7 billion and had a net worth of 0ver $6 billion. It is hard to find that caliber of success in the business world. Going from $440 million to $6 billion in only 13 years? Who else do you know that can deliver a 14-fold ROI? Voters are going to see this and think that Mitt is some kind of business genius. It’s better to stick with things like Romneycare instead of bringing up what amounts to business miracles.


264 posted on 01/14/2012 5:45:06 AM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Hoodat; xzins; P-Marlowe; wmfights; 1010RD; chuckee; VinL; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; Jim Robinson

Failure and success are at the heart of capitalism. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Trying to attack Romney as an unethical capitalist is steering a course toward dialectic Marxism. Stay away.

The way to win is:

1. Get focused (our vote is being intentionally split)

2. Get organized (we’re killing any candidate who isn’t pure blooded & it’s costing us)

For my part I want Obama out at any cost. That said, I am not willing to lose the House nor not gain the Senate. We waste a lot of effort here at each others throats over a situation we have little control over.

We’re smart, dedicated and talented. That needs to be applied to either local House races, Senatorial elections, or local causes. Think on the headline if we stop the WI recall effort in its tracks.

Sign up here: http://verifytherecall.com/Home_Page.html

We’re in a war folks. It’s as dirty as it gets and as deadly as any. We have to win our country back and we don’t get there by attacking capitalism. No matter how you slice or dress it, that’s what Newt & Perry did.


269 posted on 01/14/2012 6:17:35 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Hoodat

“Do you realize that Dade Behring was a huge success story? The bankruptcy filing was only temporary. The company boomed after that. When they were finally sold to Siemens in 2007, they employed over 6,000 people. They boasted worldwide sales of $1.7 billion and had a net worth of 0ver $6 billion.”

Agreed. There is a lot more gray in this story than this liberal democrat muckraking journalist presents.Did it not escape anyone that the company was purchased for 75 million, held 9 years and over the years a 16.5 million “profit” was made along with recouping the investment.That is less than a 3% annualized return on their risk exposure of 75 million.Yup they leveraged the purchase as the majority of investors do when buying a business or real estate and the returns were magnified on the investment.Did you pay all cash for your home or did you put 10 ot 20 percent down? Did the house double in value by 2006? Were you a greedy pig for refinancing, taking money out and buying a vacation home with it? When the market crashed in 2008-2009 was it wise as a matter of hindsight that you did not sell in 2006 or that you “looted” the house back then by refinancing it to deploy your gain in other areas to try to achieve growth.
There is a lot more to this story starting from the fact that the union pension fund was already deleted when Bain purchased the company and the Federal Pension Guaranty fund was already on the hoof to the union employees for the shortfall and no one in their right mind is going to assume that liability. So they negotiated that the liabilty for the shortfall would remain with the entity they purchased it from. Altho the gubmint ponied up for the shortfall Bain reaped zero economic benefit from it.There were union problems going forward with a recalcitrant union refusing to budge as the steel industry went into depression,fierce global competition coupled with falling steel prices,and it simply became cheaper to make steel and its products overseas.
Sure Bain made mistakes along the way, But so did real estate investors and many others investing in businesses that went into recession.
There are other ways to get at Romney than take this cartoon path of “fat cats” raping the workers and eating their young populist storyline.


271 posted on 01/14/2012 6:33:55 AM PST by chuckee
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To: Hoodat

It’s better to stick with things like Romneycare instead of bringing up what amounts to business miracles.

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Romney created business miracles? I guess you have every right to support heim, then.


297 posted on 01/14/2012 9:00:27 AM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: Hoodat; xzins; P-Marlowe; wmfights; 1010RD; chuckee; VinL; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; Jim Robinson
It’s better to stick with things like Romneycare instead of bringing up what amounts to business miracles.

You are so right. Attack Romney on his failure as a Gov, on romneycare, gun control, abortion. Romney running Bain Capital is a dumb line of attack and plays right into the socialists hands. Are we supposed to believe that Gingrich, who traded influence for millions at the public trough, would be a good leader of "ethical capitalism"?

309 posted on 01/14/2012 9:24:36 AM PST by wmfights (PERRY 2012)
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