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The Case for a 21-Hour Work Week (More socialist agenda blow?)
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| 1/11/12
| Michael Coren
Posted on 01/12/2012 10:04:22 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
Hell, I'd be happy just to get down to a 60-hour workweek!
But I guess some of us have to work hard to pay the taxes to support all the "work-shy" people out there.
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posted on
01/12/2012 10:30:48 AM PST
by
SamAdams76
(I am 27 days away from outliving Marty Feldman)
To: CodeToad
These “save the world” socialist engineers are insane! They want to cut your consumption by cutting your pay check. It’s the same old mud hut and bicycle crowd for everyone while the likes of Nancy Pelosi still live in their mansions. These people want us to go backwards! GO TO HELL!
To: logitech
The author doesn’t realize that the 15 hour work week is already alive and well in the public sector. The main problem is that public sector employees get paid for 40 hours of work.
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posted on
01/12/2012 10:37:34 AM PST
by
T. Rustin Noone
(the angel wanna wear my red shoes......)
To: AngelesCrestHighway
I had a debate with a guy I worked with back in 1995. He Had a BS in Education from NY University and a MS in Physics at Harvard. He was working as a Lab Tech in the Science Division at a community College. He was a brilliant guy, but he was an avowed marxist and argued with me that we needed to have 25-30 hr work weeks so everyone could have a job. Of course, everyone would get paid the same as a 40 hr week. When I pointed out that it would add so much to the costs of doing whatever it was they were doing, therby making the costs to comsumers that much higher, he said that companies would have to get by with less profit.. When I pointed out that they simply wouldn't do business on those terms, he said that the Government had to mandate it...
It goes to show you that no matter how smart you are, and how much education you have, you can still be a stupid ass!
Mike
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posted on
01/12/2012 10:37:34 AM PST
by
MichaelP
(The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools ~HS)
To: AngelesCrestHighway
I had a debate with a guy I worked with back in 1995. He Had a BS in Education from NY University and a MS in Physics at Harvard. He was working as a Lab Tech in the Science Division at a community College. He was a brilliant guy, but he was an avowed marxist and argued with me that we needed to have 25-30 hr work weeks so everyone could have a job. Of course, everyone would get paid the same as a 40 hr week. When I pointed out that it would add so much to the costs of doing whatever it was they were doing, therby making the costs to comsumers that much higher, he said that companies would have to get by with less profit.. When I pointed out that they simply wouldn't do business on those terms, he said that the Government had to mandate it...
It goes to show you that no matter how smart you are, and how much education you have, you can still be a stupid ass!
Mike
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posted on
01/12/2012 10:38:05 AM PST
by
MichaelP
(The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools ~HS)
To: AngelesCrestHighway
Why not? Look how well that has worked for the PIGS: Italy, Greece, Spain and Portugal.
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posted on
01/12/2012 10:39:44 AM PST
by
Cletus.D.Yokel
(Islam is a tyrannical and violent POLITICAL ideology and has nothing to do with "religion".)
To: MichaelP
“When I pointed out that they simply wouldn’t do business on those terms, he said that the Government had to mandate it...”
typical communist answer...the government would have to mandate it. People like this make Art Bell look normal.
To: AngelesCrestHighway
In case anyone else is thrown for a loop as I was, this Michael Coren is not the conservative Canadian journalist.
To: The Pack Knight
Same BS they tried in France - reduce the work week to 35 hours so that more people have to be hired to cover the schedule, if not the actual production.
I’d put it in the same category as laying off the bulldozer operator and hiring a hundred people with shovels. More people are working, right?
Why not give them spoons?
It takes an Ivy-League education to be this stupid.
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posted on
01/12/2012 10:52:23 AM PST
by
SargeK
To: albie
>>Anyone putting in 40 hours or less in a week doesn’t make real money.
Anyone making ‘real money’ has half their income stolen by the government to buy the votes of crack-addled parasites.
The redefinition of productivity as ‘doing the same amount of work in less time’ as opposed to ‘doing more work in the same amount of time’ (thus freeing up time for innovation) is not necessarily socialist (e.g. ‘Atlas Shrugged’ or ‘Starving the Monkeys’)
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posted on
01/12/2012 10:52:32 AM PST
by
vikingd00d
(chown -R us ./base)
To: CodeToad
I find that people are not productive past 6 hours a day at most. A 24 hour work week has been productive with additional hours as needed. The vast majority of employees fill their 40 hour work week with things other than work just to say they were there. I actually had someone proclaim that even though someone had gotten all the expected work done for the week the employee needed to get all their hours in.You have obviously never worked in transportation.
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posted on
01/12/2012 10:53:36 AM PST
by
Jeff Chandler
(Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
To: AngelesCrestHighway
Works for me. I can spend the added free tome coning and planking.
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posted on
01/12/2012 10:57:30 AM PST
by
cornfedcowboy
(Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
To: CodeToad
If the person is getting paid for piece work, by the unit produced, then your point makes sense. The required number of units were completed, therefore there’s no use in hanging around any longer than necessary.
If they are paid by the hour, and completed all of the ‘expected work’ in less time than had been allocated, and assuming that the person isn’t killing himself or shortchanging quality to do it, then the amount of ‘expected work’ is obviously set too low.
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posted on
01/12/2012 11:04:43 AM PST
by
SargeK
To: AngelesCrestHighway
This makes no sense to me on any level. Less work time for most people means less pay. More free time for most people means spending more money.
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posted on
01/12/2012 11:13:23 AM PST
by
GSWarrior
(Businessmen are more trustworthy than politicians, professors and preachers.)
To: Personal Responsibility
That means overtime pay starts at 22 hours???? So I need to go from salary to hourly so I can get overtime pay for the additional 40 to 50 hours a week I normally work.
To: AngelesCrestHighway
What was old is old again. When my father was in university, shortening the work week was the topic of the day. And I'm no youngster.
Welcome to "Back To The '50s," liberal style. Amazing how many of their "new" ideas are older than I am. It makes me want to ask, "Who's the Tory, morning glory?"
To: AngelesCrestHighway
Maybe to save Obama....if everyone only works part time others will have to work the other 20 hours a week.
To: AngelesCrestHighway
If an employer limits hours, he doesn’t have to provide benefits for his employees. Simple economics which has nothing to do with saving the world.
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posted on
01/12/2012 11:41:55 AM PST
by
bgill
(The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
To: SargeK
salaried engineers and many corporate jobs are difficult to model after 40 hour work weeks. Some weeks are 80 hours of inspiration and other weeks barely can squeeze out 16. For manual labor, sure, hourly dictates work, but not for thinking jobs.
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posted on
01/12/2012 11:48:42 AM PST
by
CodeToad
(Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
To: AngelesCrestHighway
These liberals are the Luddites of the 21st century. They can’t handle not being cavemen so they try to drag the rest of us down to their level.
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posted on
01/12/2012 11:52:19 AM PST
by
CodeToad
(Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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