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Depending on which link you go to, Santorums conservative voting record is not that great, between a weak 83 and a somewhat respectable 88 per cent.

That puts him below Newt. Below Perry. And gads, yes, below even Mitt.

My ONLY point in this is simply stating that “taking the slings and arrows” for social issues is admirable, but it DOES NOT MEAN ON BALANCE THAT YOU ARE NECESSARILY A GOOD CONSERVATIVE.

Santorum is only a C student conservative overall, yet his supporters insist he is THE CONSERVATIVE in the race. Nay nay.

By what measure do estimate conservatism? With all the PACs and advocacy groups (each with a very narrow self-interest) we concoct a wide range of voter aids by which we bolster or demolish one another. A case in point would be the NRA’s foolish and shortsighted endorsement of the miserable and treasonous Harry Reid.

Now consider the use of voting records to estimate conservatism. With the butt-loads of earmarks and last minute deals going on, there is, categorically, no legislation that comes from the hill that is NOT a pork laden, anti-freedom, piece of dung. That said, a singular bill may foster or diminish some particular virtue or ill of the Republic, but on the whole it is like consuming vermin and parasite laden food. It may nourish for the short term, but the negative load will eventually kill you in the end.

We, as Conservatives, must recognize that change must occur on the scale unknown in this country - possibly since its founding. Any candidate that is “electable” is not, by sheer definition, what is needed. Any candidate that is willing to go the whole way (and we need a full slate to do that) will invariably piss off a score of DC bootlickers many of whom will also be “conservative” PACs that have become institutionalized for their share of the crumbs.

Who, then, is the conservative? Mittens? No, that's a given. Newt? No, again. Look at him closely and you'll see he's nothing more than a third-way elitist. For my money, the most conservative (closest to Constitutional ideals) have already been killed off. For me, this leaves Mr. Santorum as the moral choice among many delusional, but ‘electable’ choices. Will he win? Nay, nay. We conservatives lose this election? You bet. No matter if BO takes a second term (most likely) and takes over the entire gub’mint or some jack-ass like the Mitten takes the WH we still lose through Jacobian tactics in the end.

We are going to lose, lose and lose again until we realize that principle and moral courage are the only things that count. It may very well be that we are no longer a people that can self-govern and, therfore, no longer fit for American freedom. If so, the electorate must change - not the principles or convictions. If we lose and, possibly, die because of sticking to these things - so be it. Better that than to live in a delusional world where black and white have no meaning and evil is become good.

I'd like them all to have 100% conservative voting records, but none of them do. In fact, I had not known that the Mittwit had a voting record much less one above 83% since he has never been a legislator. Who rates Perry? Was it on his record 20 years ago as a Texas state legislator? 83% vs. 88% bothers you? Not me.

As to social conservatism: Conservatives are generally not libertoonians. One simply CANNOT be conservative without being firmly committed to ending abortion and to resisting/ending sexual perversions posing as a basis for marriage (including tax subsidies for the perverts) and to protecting gun rights and to an aggressive and muscular foreign policy. Money is only money. It is on the ballot in every election and there are no permanent victories.

Those who take slings and arrows for social conservatism are the heroes of the conservative movement. Quislings like Mittwit are not evenly vaguely conservative. I can eagerly support Rick Santorum, Newt Gingrich or Rick Perry. I will NOT vote for Romney, Huntsman, or Ron Paul under ANY circumstances. I do not care if any of them effect claims of being "fiscal conservatives."

Without social conservatism, there is no such thing as a "fiscal conservative." On social issues, Barry Goldwater was a Jacobin social revolutionary posing as a "conservative" while wife #1 (Peggy) spent 35 years on the National Board of Planned Barrenhood. He supported gay everything and took his own daughter to an abortion mill to murder his grandchild, saying that anyone who objected could kiss his ass. He also was never reliable in supporting Ronaldus Maximus or his foreign policy.