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To: af_vet_rr
The people who support Romney have sold their souls to the devil and know him for the vile RINO that he is. They aren't going to change anybody's minds with this attack.

If that's true then what attack is going to work? The Bain stuff is probably the best attack available on his electability since it can be used in the general election, unlike attacks "from the right."

113 posted on 01/11/2012 1:35:58 PM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: JediJones
If that's true then what attack is going to work? The Bain stuff is probably the best attack available on his electability since it can be used in the general election, unlike attacks "from the right."

If I knew the 100% answer to that, I wouldn't be talking about it on the internet, I'd be making a big chunk of change telling one or more candidates :)

We have a couple of problems with Romney: He's got that consistent 20-30% who support him across the board - RINOs, Mormons, Democrats angry at Obama, former McCain supporters. Basically liberals and weirdos. No candidate will be able to make a dent in that group. You have to wash your hands of that group of people, because chances are they would rather support Obama than a true Conservative.

Another problem: the mainstream media, including Fox News, is doing everything they can to promote Romney as the only one who can beat Obama. They have a vested interest in seeing Romney get the nomination. The only way to counter that is to see Romney defeated in the primaries. That can't happen until after South Carolina.

Another problem: The primaries so far. Up through South Carolina, either the primaries are open or tilted in Romney's favor (New Hampshire). Democrats can and will cross over in South Carolina for Romney. This idea that SC should be so damned important to Perry and Gingrich's campaign is utterly retarded. As far as I know, Florida is not an open primary, however Florida has plenty of liberals - the state went for Obama in 2008, nearly went for Gore in 2000. Florida will be the first true test, but it will be a tough test.

What to do? Hang tight and stop buying into the MSM's bs about how South Carolina will determine the winner. It makes me angry to see Perry and Gingrich place so much emphasis on SC because it feeds right into the media dialogue that it's important. Romney has a long way to go before he gets the delegates he needs, but people are already throwing up their hands and acting like he'll clinch with SC.

Romney needs to be attacked a lot more during the debates. I liked that Cain and Gingrich and even Santorum held back through most of the debates and stayed positive, but the media is doing everything it can to make these debates a platform for Rommey, so Santorum, Perry, and Gingrich are going to have to rattle Romney. I don't like seeing Conservatives beat each other up, but Romney is not a Conservative. Treat him like they'd treat Obama if they were debating him.

The other thing is that some candidates will have to drop. I think it's too early to decide who, but after Florida, I think it will become more clear, especially if anybody finishes in single digits from here on out through the next several primaries. This one I'm not a big fan of, as long as folks have money in their campaigns to continue. At the very least, if they are going to stay in it, they need to make this about Romney and Obama and only Romney and Obama.

I think you have to ignore Ron Paul. A lot of his supporters are not Republicans, and he's just going to repeat his 2008 performance. It's like Romney - Conservative Republicans are not going to be able to pick up Romney or Ron Paul supporters.

I do not believe Romney will do well once you get away from open primaries. Just don't believe the hype from the media or from Perry or Gingrich about how important South Carolina is. It's an open primary, it's useless to use it as a gauge. Turn off Fox News and the other MSM outlets and load up your browser and read Free Republic.

Keep the faith.
135 posted on 01/11/2012 2:31:44 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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