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Ron Paul: ‘Israel should be the Hong Kong of the Middle East’
Washington Post ^ | 01/08/2012 | Felicia Sonmez

Posted on 01/08/2012 10:56:14 PM PST by Lattero

At a campaign event that drew more than 300 people here late Sunday afternoon, Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) defended his Israel policy in response to a question from an undecided voter, an answer that included, in part, the suggestion that Israel “should be the Hong Kong of the Middle East.”

“I would want to maintain very close relations with Israel,” Paul said. “I’d want to be a good friend of Israel. And I also want to respect them in many ways that I do not think the United States should undermine their sovereignty in any way.”

He went on to defend his position that the United States should not provide foreign aid to Israel and should not “tell them what to do.”

“If they want to have a peace treaty with their neighbors and they think they can work it out, they shouldn’t have to ask us for permission,” Paul said. “They shouldn’t have to ask us permission to defend their borders. That should be their business. But also, I do not believe that I should take money from anybody here and send money to Israel.”

He then rounded out his answer with the Hong Kong comparison. “We should be friends,” he said. “We should trade with them. I would encourage them to become the Hong Kong of the Middle East, or something like that. You know, have a really affluent society.”

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: chutzpah; hongkong; israel; randpaultruthfile; ronpaul; ronpaultruthfile; texas
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To: Lattero

Why is this assclown polling at 25%?


21 posted on 01/09/2012 12:17:07 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: nathanbedford

Because Sir, they are steadfast in the wake.


22 posted on 01/09/2012 12:20:20 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Jonty30
Some of you need to watch the video again. Right after he said that (that they should be like the Hong Kong of the Middle East), he said a very "you know, have a really affluent society." That was a positive thing.

Also, I find it amazing that even after he said so many things like we should be friends with them, trade with them, and they should have their independence and sovereignty, and that cutting aid to BOTH sides is actually a benefit to Israel... the anti's here ignore all of that, and instead focus on one thing he said, and try to twist it. Fer crying out loud.

23 posted on 01/09/2012 12:21:20 AM PST by incindiary (http://youtu.be/ifJG_oFFDK0)
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To: nathanbedford

I would argue that we should also support Turkey and Iraq.

Divide the great beast with freedom from the straits of bospherous to the straits of hormuz.


24 posted on 01/09/2012 12:25:32 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: incindiary

I think US should be just like Hong Kong. You know, affluent.

Do you really believe I mean that?

The fact is that Israel is already like Hong Kong in that matter. They are a relatively affluent society. So why is Ron Paul saying that they should be as affluent as Hong Kong, when they already pretty much are?


25 posted on 01/09/2012 12:25:48 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Lattero
Oh ok, I see what the problem is. The same thing that I suspect happens on most of the threads having to do with Ron Paul. Many people probably don't even bother clicking on the article, or watching the video. They just see the headline, and immediately react in a knee-jerk way. That is the pattern I see here, over and over.

Anyway, here is the video clip of that townhall meeting, in case anyone wants to see it: http://youtu.be/RHmgoFDkqoA

26 posted on 01/09/2012 12:26:48 AM PST by incindiary (http://youtu.be/ifJG_oFFDK0)
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To: Jonty30; ansel12; VicVega

Maybe VicVega was talking about when Hong Kong was a British colony?

I visited Hong Kong before it reverted to Chinese rule.

Now it’s part of a communist country.


27 posted on 01/09/2012 12:29:54 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (Proud barbarian TEA Party SOB and an evil Capitalist.)
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To: dixiechick2000

I’ll give him that possibility, as most college kids are highly ill informed about the world, to put it mildly.

They perceptions, as anybody who doesn’t keep themselves well informed, are often formed by the shows or movies they watch.


28 posted on 01/09/2012 12:36:12 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Jonty30
There is always room for a country to grow in prosperity... and they certainly should be able to be independent and sovereign, which I think is the more important point.

Here's another short video to take a look at, speaking of respecting their independence and sovereignty: Benjamin Netanyahu and Dr. Ron Paul

29 posted on 01/09/2012 12:38:55 AM PST by incindiary (http://youtu.be/ifJG_oFFDK0)
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To: incindiary

Yep...


30 posted on 01/09/2012 12:39:23 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: incindiary

I read the article.

Ron Paul is an isolationist. Isolationism means leaving other countries to their fate.

As far as Paul is concerned, if Israel cannot stand up to 2 billions Muslims and survive, that’s Israel’s problem.

That’s been his long standing position, regardless how he tries to put lipstick on it.


31 posted on 01/09/2012 12:42:39 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Jonty30; VicVega

“I’ll give him that possibility, as most college kids are highly ill informed about the world, to put it mildly.”

Many adults are, too. ;o)

“They perceptions, as anybody who doesn’t keep themselves well informed, are often formed by the shows or movies they watch.”

And, you tube videos where the politician is being disingenuous as to his real beliefs.


32 posted on 01/09/2012 12:43:44 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (Proud barbarian TEA Party SOB and an evil Capitalist.)
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To: nathanbedford

Good questions.

For me, Israel is the only good thing in the M.E. in terms of government and society. Their existence and success is a constant reminder of that.

Second, Israel’s fight is our fight. We have a common enemy. Their successes are ours, their failure would be ours and strengthen our enemy.

Third, they are a bargain. The most they have asked for is material in time of war. Compared with what Iraq cost, Israel is a real value investment.

Fourth, morally, their portion of the Palestinian mandate was given to them for a state, a place to go to get away from the historical constant of oppression and pogrom. It was a piece of mostly desert and they made it bloom and thrive with generations of hard work and determination.

IMHO, of course.


33 posted on 01/09/2012 12:43:59 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: dixiechick2000; VicVega

It looks like we will never know.


34 posted on 01/09/2012 12:44:36 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: nathanbedford

I support Israel because I’m a Christian.

Plain and simple...


35 posted on 01/09/2012 12:46:09 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (Proud barbarian TEA Party SOB and an evil Capitalist.)
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To: ansel12; VicVega

Yep...I kept reading, though. lol


36 posted on 01/09/2012 12:47:11 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (Proud barbarian TEA Party SOB and an evil Capitalist.)
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To: D-fendr

God bless you bump!


37 posted on 01/09/2012 12:48:54 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (Proud barbarian TEA Party SOB and an evil Capitalist.)
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To: dixiechick2000

You are correct on this.

I don’t rely on campaign videos to determine my position on an individual, but their general conduct when they are just doing business or governing day by day.


38 posted on 01/09/2012 12:49:31 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Jonty30

You are very astute.


39 posted on 01/09/2012 12:52:58 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (Proud barbarian TEA Party SOB and an evil Capitalist.)
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To: Jonty30

If you are an illegal alien FReeper, you’re one I’m proud to know. ;o)


40 posted on 01/09/2012 12:54:13 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (Proud barbarian TEA Party SOB and an evil Capitalist.)
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