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To: PA-RIVER
Actually it was an opinion solicited by the Senate from Lawerence Tribe and Ted Olson that said that McCain was eligible and it even included a mention of Obama as being eligible as well. Some excerpts

The Constitution does not define the meaning of “natural born Citizen.” The U.S. Supreme Court gives meaning to terms that are not expressly defined in the Constitution by looking to the context in which those terms are used; to statutes enacted by the First Congress, Marsh v. Chambers, 463 U.S. 783, 790-91 (1983); and to the common law at the time of the Founding. United Suites v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 655 (1898). These sources all confirm that the phrase “natural born” includes both birth abroad to parents who were citizens, and birth within a nation’s territory and allegiance. Thus, regardless of the sovereign status of the Panama Canal Zone at the time of Senator McCain’s birth, he is a “natural born” citizen because he was born to parents who were U.S. citizens.

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Indeed, the statute that the First Congress enacted on this subject not only established that such children are U.S. citizens, but also expressly referred to them as “natural born citizens.” Act of Mar. 26, 1790, ch. 3, § 1, 1 Stat. 103, 104.

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Historical practice confirms that birth on soil that is under the sovereignty of the United States, but not within a State, satisfies the Natural Born Citizen Clause. For example, Vice President Charles Curtis was born in the territory of Kansas on January 25, 1860 — one year before Kansas became a State. Because the Twelfth Amendment requires that Vice Presidents possess the same qualifications as Presidents, the service of Vice President Curtis verifies that the phrase “natural born Citizen” includes birth outside of any State but within U.S. territory. Similarly, Senator Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona before its statehood, yet attained the Republican Party’s presidential nomination in 1964. And Senator Barack Obama was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961 — not long after its admission to the Union on August 21, 1959. We find it inconceivable that Senator Obama would have been ineligible for the Presidency had he been born two years earlier.

234 posted on 01/09/2012 7:56:30 AM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

Another presentation of how convenient it is for lawyers to confuse issues by arguing out of both sides of their mouths so as to separate points in arguments but keep up the appearance of honesty/integrity. I refer to the inclusion of requiring both parents to be citizens in one part of the argument but in a later part ignoring such when making argument for what they want only on the basis of ‘soil’. These lawyers knew that citizenship of parents is entwined with place of birth and both together is the only honest establishment of ‘natural born citizen’. Just goes to tell me again that in my experience with lawyers ,even if they are judges,it is as necessary to verify as it is to trust. Sometimes difficult to decide which should be first.


239 posted on 01/09/2012 9:02:45 AM PST by noinfringers2
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