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GOP Debate Live Thread, Concord NH (NBC 9AM ET)
msnbc/nbc ^ | January 8, 2012 | NBC

Posted on 01/08/2012 5:24:52 AM PST by NautiNurse

Mere hours following the antagonistic ABC interrogations, David Gregory gets his turn, hoping for verbal pyrotechnics Sunday morning.

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To: alicewonders
I understand your point, and I did the same thing, because I am a fighter and didn't like that he wasn't defending himself.

However, I truly believe that President Bush did not fight back because of his understanding of what respect for the office of the presidency means.

I don't agree with his refusal to defend himself against the rotten left, but he thought he just needed to do his job and let the chips fall where they may.

History will tell us whether that was an overall negative or a positive. I truly don't know.

601 posted on 01/08/2012 10:54:26 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: Reily

It’s a good idea (part time congress) and term limits is another good idea. Both ideas would require acceptance by people who don’t want it and who are in charge.

However, it doesn’t hurt to throw it out there as something to think about for the future.


602 posted on 01/08/2012 10:56:36 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: ohioWfan

George W. Bush took the high road and didn’t find many people there.


603 posted on 01/08/2012 11:01:00 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: Hoodat

I think you might be right, but Huntsman is even smarmier than Romney. That is admittedly a shallow observation and not one on the merits of the man, but it’s true. And I suspect that many other voters feel the same icky vibes.


604 posted on 01/08/2012 11:06:16 AM PST by Jedidah
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To: altura
I don’t know why. They hate Perry even more than they hate Romney, or ron Paul. Well, Ron Paul definitely won’t get the looks crowd, will he?

These Mega-Perry-Haters remind me so much of grade school playground incidents where a new kid, or a kid that wasn't a member of the clique would be mercilessly picked on by the in-crowd. They fear a kid that doesn't jump through hoops to kiss their butts, and they know they have to take him down early before he gives other kids ideas.

They have lots of minions that sit at their computers and lob bombs at Perry by trying to demoralize his supporters. They know that Perry's supporters are not just supporting the latest flash-in-the-pan candidate. That's what irks them so much! The loyalty of Perry's supporters eats them alive - and yes, they are jealous of it.

The liberals, the media, the GOP establishment, and the myriad of Beltway Groupies that make big bucks off of scamming the poor taxpayer don't want some cowboy ridin' in to try to lasso them out DC. None of them want things to change - PERRY DOES.

605 posted on 01/08/2012 11:06:51 AM PST by alicewonders ((GO PERRY!))
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To: altura

I’m neither paunchy nor bald, but I am a Texan who once loved Perry and have through the years been double-crossed by him too many times. Not a supporter, not at all.

That said, and I hate to say it, were Perry to catch fire in S. Carolina, he might have the best chance of the bunch of beating Obama in November. He is a masterful politician.


606 posted on 01/08/2012 11:09:46 AM PST by Jedidah
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To: All

I missed the debate.
Thankfully MSNBC is re airing it now!


607 posted on 01/08/2012 11:13:07 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: ohioWfan
However, I truly believe that President Bush did not fight back because of his understanding of what respect for the office of the presidency means.

Of course. George W. Bush comes from a background that fervently believes in humble public service. But somehow - maybe by having a surrogate "attack dog" he could have found a way to counter the relentless smears coming his way. Like water dripping on a stone, eventually it does take its toll.

I think his not-fighting-back laid the path for the upset in the 2006 election, and that was the beginning of it. Bush has a mixed legacy, but I am thankful he was in charge after 911

608 posted on 01/08/2012 11:14:54 AM PST by alicewonders ((GO PERRY!))
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To: alicewonders; onyx

Watching the debate video now. Romney bragging about what a small government conservative he was as governor. Right. How about ObamaCare, er, I mean RomneyCare!


609 posted on 01/08/2012 11:19:35 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: maggief

Towards the end starting with Gregory’s question at 10:17:31:00

It wasn’t a “YOU LIE!!” moment, rather Romney kept digging a hole when he began his response at 10:19:10:00
(And he would not shut up)


610 posted on 01/08/2012 11:20:39 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Jim Robinson

Newt tells Romney to drop the pious baloney! LOL!


611 posted on 01/08/2012 11:21:02 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: hoosiermama

Newt is certainly NO David...the attempted comparison and excusing of his adulterous ways is pretty sick.


612 posted on 01/08/2012 11:22:28 AM PST by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: altura
George W. Bush took the high road and didn’t find many people there.

Well said.

In fact, many times he stood alone.

613 posted on 01/08/2012 11:25:07 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: All

Perry reaches out to the Teaparty and reminds us what it’s about.


614 posted on 01/08/2012 11:25:59 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Jim Robinson

You’re in for some real treats by Newt!

Santorum does well too and ditto for Perry!

Mitt gets hit hard, for a change and caught lying!

I hope you stay to watch Chris Matthews rip Romney to shreds for his huge lie! Newt gave him the rope and Romney took it....LOL.


615 posted on 01/08/2012 11:26:18 AM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - DONATE MONTHLY! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know!)
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To: LUV W
"Say what you will, he is a godly, patriotic and conservative man!"

He is a godly man.

He is a patriotic man

The third thing he is, is.......ummm.........Sorry. I forgot. Ooops!

hank

616 posted on 01/08/2012 11:28:13 AM PST by County Agent Hank Kimball (Screw it. Newt's the smartest candidate and the guy I want to see debating Obummer. Flame away. Num)
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To: NautiNurse
Honestly can the state run liberal media not find a single conservative to be a co-host? How about one the more intelligent radio talkers that live and breath politics?
617 posted on 01/08/2012 11:29:06 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: alicewonders
I think his not-fighting-back laid the path for the upset in the 2006 election, and that was the beginning of it.

What I remember most about 2006, was that not one Republican member of Congress stood behind the President. No one stood up for the troops in Iraq, and no one stood up for the necessity of the War on Terror.

They all ran and hid. I think if some of them had stood up against the leftist attacks, we might not have lost Congress.

On top of that, there was clearly no one willing to be the "attack dog" that he needed. It was all unfortunate.

618 posted on 01/08/2012 11:29:13 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball

Cute.
Give it a rest.


619 posted on 01/08/2012 11:30:39 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Jedidah

Congrats on staying in shape.

I lost it for a minute there. I agree with you about Perry having the best chance.

He’s not only a master politician but a reliable conservative with a proven record.

A lot of Texans are ticked off at him for various things.

In 11 years if you haven’t ticked somebody off, you’re not doing your job.

On balance, I’d say he’s been a great governor.


620 posted on 01/08/2012 11:31:09 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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