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To: Travis McGee
I wonder if there was a newspaper in the 1930’s in Germany with a similar article:

* Sorry, defense authorization isn’t opening the door to a liberal police state.

07 JAN 34 DATELINE MUNICH-Can a mundane defense authorization law create a Hitler dictatorship? Many people on the political right and left have been alarmed by language in the 2012 National Socialist Party Defense Authorization Act (NSPDAA) that they argue authorizes the Führer to use military force to capture, detain, torture and kill fellow countrymen at home and abroad. The furor centers on Sections 1021 and 1022 of the law, which deal with detaining terrorist suspects. Specifically at issue is to what extent the law allows the government to treat German citizens like enemies of the state.

The official word from the government, from the Führer’s own lips is: “There is nothing to worry about. When in history has the government EVER done anything to harm it's own people? Return to your home and sleep comforted by the fact that the government has things under total control.”*

79 posted on 01/06/2012 10:31:30 AM PST by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: PATRIOT1876

The thing is, Nazi Germany is not the only nation in the world that has this defense authorization type policy. True, not many other nations have it set in stone, but among those that do include Israel and India-both states with long and brutal histories of dealing with jihadist terror. It would only be a good analogy if defense authorization was the only thing Hitler initiated as he rose to power; it wasnt. Hitler took over from a govt that was a complete wreck to begin with, Germany at the time was not a nation with a govt and Constitution and Legislation that for 200+ years that guaranteed its citizens liberty and opportunities for success. Germany was a failed state before Hitler’;s rise to power. And as for this NDAA, well I have already argued this quite extensively, to say the least, but the bill is essentially saying that Congress agrees with Obama AND Ex President Bush regarding who, including US citizens, can be detained under the AUMF; Obama did not make fundamental changes to Bush’s policy in that area. If this is a Nazi bill, then we’ve been going the route of Nazi Germany since right after 9/11. Possibly earlier, since Presidents have numerous times claimed the right to detain Americans without trail under given conditions. We need to, in addition to be armed, be genuinely educated about our laws and how they can be applied, and have historically been applied, to Americans. Right now it doesnt seem like we can tell when the govt is approaching tyranny or just doing its job.


81 posted on 01/06/2012 11:11:42 AM PST by emax
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