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To: Kfobbs

Here is an actual Rick Santorum quote: “One of the things I will talk about, that no president has talked about before, is I think the dangers of contraception in this country.” And also, “Many of the Christian faith have said, well, that’s okay, contraception is okay. It’s not okay. It’s a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be.”
These comments were not dug up from some bygone moment of ideological purity, before dreams of a presidential campaign. He said it in October, to a blogger at CaffeinatedThoughts.com (they met at Des Moines’ Baby Boomers Cafe).
It’s pretty basic: Rick Santorum is coming for your contraception. Any and all of it. And while he may not be alone in his opposition to non-procreative sex, he is certainly the most honest about it — as he himself acknowledged in the interview
http://www.salon.com/2012/01/04/rick_santorum_is_coming_for_your_birth_control/


2 posted on 01/05/2012 9:10:58 AM PST by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: Reagan69

I clicked that link to um, Salon. But I couldn’t find the part where Santorum said he would ban birth control.

It sounds like he disagreed with the court’s decision in Griswald which established the precedent that there is a general right to privacy in the Constitution. I couldn’t find that either.

Oh, and that article also faults Newt for taking the same position as Santorum.


5 posted on 01/05/2012 9:15:52 AM PST by RIRed
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To: Reagan69

That’s from a Salon article, hardley “ Conservative “ in their values... they are a liberal website and pro gay...


6 posted on 01/05/2012 9:31:20 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Reagan69

Holy frigging crap. I don’t want to see contraception / abortion as his main issue because he’ll lose the election over something that won’t be changed in our lifetime.

We need to win this election to get our country back on track. Santorum should concentrate almost all of his time on fixing the top things that are turning us into a third world nation:
- massive deveopment cheap domestic energy and kill off the regulations that are hampering this effort oil and gas exploration, refineries, pipelines, coal power, nuclear power, etc.)
- build a border fence, deport the illegals,
- reduce work visas and make people pay 100K per year into state-based scholarship programs when an employer says that they can’t find a US citizen with the necessary skills
- raise the retirement age by 5+ yrs
- eliminate 50% of the federal workforce and do not replace them with contractors
- eliminate almost all entitlements, including Obamacare
- raise the eligiblity requirements for the remaining entitlement programs
- reduce the payout for all entitlements as an incentive to work
- eliminate no child left behind
- english as the official national language
- ... and about a hundred other things


8 posted on 01/05/2012 10:33:23 AM PST by ChiefJayStrongbow
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To: Reagan69
Pointing out the now-obvious dangers of contraception (for instance, breast cancer and strokes, DVTs and MIs from all forms of hormonal contraception), and the link between contraception and abortion, does not mean someone is going to make contraception illegal.

Planned Parenthood v. Casey, the recent Supreme Court decision that confirmed Roe v. Wade, stated, "in some critical respects abortion is of the same character as the decision to use contraception . . . . for two decades of economic and social developments, people have organized intimate relationships and made choices that define their views of themselves and their places in society, in reliance on the availability of abortion in the event that contraception should fail."

The Supreme Court decision has made completely unnecessary any efforts to "expose" what is really behind the attachment of the modern age to abortion. As the Supreme Court candidly states, we need abortion so that we can continue our contraceptive lifestyles. It is not because contraceptives are ineffective that a million and half women a year seek abortions as back-ups to failed contraceptives. The "intimate relationships" facilitated by contraceptives are what make abortions "necessary". "Intimate" here is a euphemism and a misleading one at that. Here the word "intimate" means "sexual"; it does not mean "loving and close." Abortion is most often the result of sexual relationships in which there is little true intimacy and love, in which there is no room for a baby, the natural consequence of sexual intercourse. Contraception enables those who are not prepared to care for babies, to engage in sexual intercourse; when they become pregnant, they resent the unborn child for intruding itself upon their lives and they turn to the solution of abortion.

Contraception currently is hailed as the solution to the problems consequent on the sexual revolution; many believe that better contraceptives and more responsible use of contraceptives will reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies and abortions and will prevent to some extent the spread of sexually transmitted diseases.

To support the argument that more responsible use of contraceptives would reduce the number of abortions, some note that most abortions are performed for "contraceptive purposes". That is, few abortions are had because a woman has been a victim of rape or incest or because a pregnancy would endanger her life, or because she expects to have a handicapped or deformed newborn. Rather, most abortions are had because men and women who do not want a baby are having sexual intercourse and facing pregnancies they did not plan for and do not want. Because their contraceptive failed, or because they failed to use a contraceptive, they then resort to abortion as a back-up. Many believe that if we could convince men and women to use contraceptives responsibly we would reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies and thus the number of abortions. Thirty years ago this position might have had some plausibility, but not now. We have lived for about thirty years with a culture permeated with contraceptive use and abortion; no longer can we think that greater access to contraception will reduce the number of abortions. Rather, wherever contraception is more readily available the number of unwanted pregnancies and the number of abortions increases greatly.

The connection between contraception and abortion is primarily this: contraception facilitates the kind of relationships and even the kind of attitudes and moral characters that are likely to lead to abortion. The contraceptive mentality treats sexual intercourse as though it had little natural connection with babies; it thinks of babies as an "accident" of pregnancy, as an unwelcome intrusion into a sexual relationship, as a burden.

Santorum grasps these realities, and he is the ONLY politician on the national level willing to discuss them unapologetically. God Bless him for doing so!

9 posted on 01/05/2012 10:53:15 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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