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To: Olog-hai
[ You’re the one that implied that the USA is ruled by elites and that the Founding Fathers set it up to be so. ]

Elites rule in every government on earth.. and every kind of government its just the nature of government that determine who and How those are in charge...

[ The definition of a “republic” cannot exclude the people choosing who represents them in government; otherwise it is not a republic. ]

In a republic the States have a central government(federal) as a vassal.. In a democracy the States become provinces like in Canada.. and are vassals of the central government.. Thats what starting happening to the U.S. after the Civil War here..

[ The same goes with a constitutional monarchy, where the difference is the monarchy and the trappings thereof. ]

A monarchy is Mob Rule(by mobsters) exactly like a democracy is.. no difference.. or communism(socialism)..

**Note: America has three governments.. Federal, State and Local...
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Democracy is the road to socialism. -Karl Marx

Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism. -V.I. Lenin

The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism .-Karl Marx

53 posted on 01/03/2012 10:14:45 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: hosepipe
You're as bad as a communist with your false definitions.

In a republic the States have a central government (federal) as a vassal
Looks like you haven't read Article VI Section 2 of the US Constitution. A "central government as a vassal" cannot exercise supreme authority as this law purports to do.

A monarchy is Mob Rule (by mobsters)
So you're calling God a "mobster"? Were the kings that He appointed over ancient Israel also "mobsters"?

I take it you're as anti-religion as the communists then. The Founding Fathers made it plain that the pillars that would keep the USA standing are religion and morality, without which you cannot have rule of law via a Constitution—perhaps you should take another look at that viewpoint.
56 posted on 01/03/2012 10:23:09 AM PST by Olog-hai
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