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The Haditha Marines-The Squad Leader-A Final Chapter (SSgt Wuterich-Master Thread)
1-2-2012

Posted on 01/02/2012 10:28:48 AM PST by smoothsailing

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To: RedRover

Thanks, again, Red.


381 posted on 01/19/2012 1:51:02 PM PST by Girlene
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To: RedRover; Girlene; xzins; Jemian; jazusamo; lilycicero; Lancey Howard; All

UPDATE:San Diego Union-Tribune reporting:

Haditha, Iraq court-martial stalled; plea bargain or dismissal possible

Judge excused jury without calling court to session

CAMP PENDLETON — An unexplained interruption in the court-martial of a Camp Pendleton Marine whose squad killed 24 civilians in Haditha, Iraq in 2005 continued into a second day Thursday, when the judge dismissed the jury without calling the court to session in the afternoon as planned.

The prosecution and the defense both declined to comment about whether a plea bargain or withdrawal of charges is possible.

Court proceedings are now slated to resume Friday morning.

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/jan/19/haditha-iraq-court-martial-stalled-plea-bargain-or/


382 posted on 01/19/2012 2:00:12 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Can you clarify please what “excusing” the jury means? Does it mean the jury was sent home and they are not needed at all any more? That their jury service is over?


383 posted on 01/19/2012 2:12:25 PM PST by Jemian
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To: Jemian; All

Just “excused” for the day.

Here’s more just being reported by the LA Times...

The military judge, Lt. Col. David Jones, abruptly recessed the trial on Wednesday afternoon, instructing the attorneys to seek “other options.”

Jones initially set 8:30 a.m. Thursday to resume the trial. That was then readjusted to 1 p.m. Thirty minutes before the trial was to resume Thursday, Jones sent word that the jurors had been told that the next session would be 8:30 a.m. Friday.

Of the eight defendants, six have had their cases dismissed. One was acquitted.

The hearing officer at Wuterich’s preliminary hearing in 2007 said that he doubted that Wuterich would be convicted at court-martial. He cited problems that undercut other prosecutions: conflicting testimony from witnesses and poor forensics.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/01/court-martial-delayed-as-plea-bargain-negotiations-continue.html


384 posted on 01/19/2012 2:15:12 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Thanks.


385 posted on 01/19/2012 2:16:54 PM PST by Jemian
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To: smoothsailing

Thanks, Smooth. Sounds like Gannon and Sullivan are trying to hang on with their fingernails.


386 posted on 01/19/2012 2:27:16 PM PST by jazusamo (If you don't like growing older, don't worry. You may not be growing older much longer: T. Sowell)
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Sounds like Gannon and Sullivan are trying to hang on with their fingernails

Sure sounds that way to me. The only things they should be trying to negotiate are the terms of their surrender!

387 posted on 01/19/2012 2:38:36 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: jazusamo; RedRover

This is interesting.Where was the prosecution?

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Members of the defense, including Wuterich, were in the Camp Pendleton courtroom Thursday, but not the prosecution.

http://camppendleton.patch.com/articles/wuterich-s-haditha-trial-negotiation-deal-talks-attorneys-lawyers


388 posted on 01/19/2012 3:07:06 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing; natshouse

Thanks for the pings, smooth......hoping it’s a withdrawal of all charges.

In your linked article, it says the judge excused the jury before the prosecution witness could finish their testimony. Was this witness Mendoza?

I will check in later......very hopeful for the right outcome.


389 posted on 01/19/2012 3:15:57 PM PST by Girlene
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To: smoothsailing

Maybe they were there but hiding under a desk.


390 posted on 01/19/2012 3:26:58 PM PST by RedRover
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To: Girlene

>>>Was this witness Mendoza?<<<

Yes Ma’m! :)

http://warchronicle.com/DefendOurMarinesExclusive/Trial_of_SSgt_Wuterich/Unexpected_Recess.htm


391 posted on 01/19/2012 3:57:05 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: RedRover

HA!

...or sneaking out of town.


392 posted on 01/19/2012 4:02:47 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Wanted to take thus time to thank you and the rest of the good folks on this thread. The info and links are appreciated. Though I don’t often post I do like to keep up with this situation. Tomorrow would be a good day to have all charges dropped.


393 posted on 01/19/2012 5:36:46 PM PST by amom
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To: amom

Your kind words are much appreciated, I assure you. :)

Here’s hoping tomorrow brings an end to this and benefits SSgt. Wuterich and his family.


394 posted on 01/19/2012 6:07:30 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: amom; All
DEFEND OUR MARINES EXCLUSIVE
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SSGT WUTERICH'S CHOICE

395 posted on 01/19/2012 6:28:36 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing
Here’s hoping tomorrow brings an end to this and benefits SSgt. Wuterich and his family.

Amen to that.

396 posted on 01/19/2012 9:13:27 PM PST by amom
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DEFEND OUR MARINES EXCLUSIVE
*****
SSGT WUTERICH'S CHOICE: THE TRIAL WILL GO ON

397 posted on 01/20/2012 8:23:12 AM PST by smoothsailing
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Wuterich’s Tough Choice: Exit or Honor (UPDATE: Honor)

H/T Bruce Kesler-Maggies Farm

398 posted on 01/20/2012 9:08:44 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Admin Moderator; Sidebar Moderator

It would sure be great if you could bump this up so it’s visible on the sidebar in Activism/Chapters or Extended News! :)


399 posted on 01/20/2012 11:31:10 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: RedRover; jazusamo

Sounds like Mendoza really stood tall today!

From the North County Times...

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Testimony resumed Friday, with Sgt. Humberto Mendoza telling jurors that he believed three homes that Wuterich and members of his squad assaulted on Nov. 19, 2005, were harboring insurgents.

Mendoza said the first home near the bomb site the Marine assaulted seemed a threat.

“I believe the reason we went to (the house) was because it was hostile,” Mendoza testified.

He also told the jury that he doesn’t believe anything Wuterich and the squad did at Haditha was “dishonorable” because they were under attack.

Wuterich, 31 and the father of three young girls, appeared weary when the testimony began Friday.

The day’s events included three hours of outakes from a CBS “60 Minutes” interview he gave in 2007.

http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/military/military-wuterich-trial-proceeds-after-attempts-to-reach-plea-deal/article_00a04469-73e8-5768-8214-cd22b337b0b9.html


400 posted on 01/20/2012 4:36:26 PM PST by smoothsailing
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