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To: umgud

The issue will never be solved until a national ID system is installed.

You have to be able to definitively determine a person’s identity and status. Determining who is illegal will require determining everybody’s status.

But many conservatives are opposed to such a system.


33 posted on 01/01/2012 8:41:35 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
The issue will never be solved until a national ID system is installed.

As I said, E-Verify isn't perfect, but it wouldn't require a national ID.

I do however, chuckle when some of the candidates promote the idea that all non-citizens carry special ID. I guess if this were to come to pass, it wouldn't work unless everybody carried ID.

I will concede that someday, in the not too distant future, we will have some form of national ID, but it will probably be waived for illegals.

45 posted on 01/01/2012 8:53:30 AM PST by umgud
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To: Sherman Logan
The issue will never be solved until a national ID system is installed.

You have to be able to definitively determine a person’s identity and status. Determining who is illegal will require determining everybody’s status.

But many conservatives are opposed to such a system

See post #36 for a good explanation of why conservatives oppose a national ID card - it won't do anything to stop illegal immigration which the government itself chooses to overlook, but it will put new and annoying burdens on US citizens. I've already got two forms of ID provided by the government - a US Passport and a state drivers license. Oh, and I have also proved my citizenship in order to register to vote and to be employed. What more should we be asked to do? To get my passport I had to provide the government with all kinds of proof of citizenship. Isn't that enough?

The government already can tell very quickly if anyone is a legal or illegal immigrant. All legal immigrants have visas or entry records related to their passports. No doubt they are in a database run by the federal government. Most, perhaps all recent legal immigrants have been fingerprinted at entry.

The idea that we need a new ID card is nonsense, all we need is for the government to actually enforce the law.

52 posted on 01/01/2012 9:05:49 AM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: Sherman Logan; umgud

>> The issue will never be solved until a national ID system is installed.

Our liberties don’t need to suffer with such Orwellian, Statist systems that will only imprison honest citizens.


95 posted on 01/01/2012 11:21:24 AM PST by Gene Eric (C'mon, Virginia -- are you with us or against us?!)
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To: Sherman Logan

When enough states say no to national welfare then California and other spendthrift states will have to learn to live within their means. It was the Lyndon Johnson nationization of welfare that caused all of these problems.


600 posted on 01/06/2012 6:16:08 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Sherman Logan

Meanwhile, I know two families with adult sons who are completely disabled, and will probably never be able to work. They’ve been working for years to get some assistance for them, but it’s a nightmare for them.

I guess it’s because their ancestors came to this country a couple hundred years ago. And their skin is the wrong color.


765 posted on 01/08/2012 12:17:42 PM PST by gitmo (Hatred of those who think differently is the left's unifying principle.-Ralph Peters NY Post)
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