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Ron Paul in 2009: “I Wouldn’t Have Risked American Lives” To End The Holocaust
Big Government ^ | 12/27/11 | Jeffrey Scott Shapiro

Posted on 12/27/2011 9:32:29 AM PST by Nachum

On the evening of Sept. 16, 2009, I was invited to a function for Rand Paul’s U.S. Senate campaign at the headquarters of Americans for Tax Reform.

I had been invited by a friend of mine via Facebook who was a passionate supporter of Ron Paul. Within minutes of arriving, I saw Rep. Paul enter the room, followed by an entourage of several college students.

I immediately walked up to Paul and introduced myself, and Paul smiled at me and shook my hand. I told him that I had always wanted to ask him a question, and that it was a hypothetical question, but I would appreciate his answer nonetheless. Paul smiled, and welcomed the question. At this point there were about 15 people surrounding us, listening.

And so I asked Congressman Paul: if he were President of the United States during World War II, and as president he knew what we now know about the Holocaust, but the Third Reich presented no threat to the U.S., would he have sent American troops to Nazi Germany purely as a moral imperative to save the Jews?”

And the Congressman answered:

“No, I wouldn’t. I wouldn’t risk American lives to do that. If someone wants to do that on their own because they want to do that, well, that’s fine, but I wouldn’t do that.”

(Excerpt) Read more at biggovernment.com ...


TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events
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To: mas cerveza por favor
It is better than Paul deserves...

Even to remotely consider him in a serious manner makes me question a posters cognitive function and possible drug use...

101 posted on 12/27/2011 12:45:58 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Ex-expromissor; darkwing104; 50mm; Old Sarge; 230FMJ; A.Hun; abigailsmybaby; AFPhys; Aircop_2006; ..
Hitler would not have been able to become the threat to the world that he did without the help of the US foreign policy.

ZOT!

To be added or removed from the Viking Kitty/ZOT Ping List, FReepmail Darkwing104 or 50mm.

102 posted on 12/27/2011 12:46:34 PM PST by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: thesaleboat

Nope. No write-ins will be counted in the primary. Any other type of election you can write in.


103 posted on 12/27/2011 12:48:42 PM PST by freespirited
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To: Nachum

So now we’re supposed to take the word of Jeffrey Scott Shapiro, a former Washington, D.C. prosecutor who served on U.S. Senator John F. Kerry’s legal team during the 2004 presidential election, studied under Governor Michael Dukakis and interned for President Clinton in the White House.

Next I expect to read an article by Karl Rove about how Ron Paul has COOTIES!


104 posted on 12/27/2011 12:51:36 PM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: Ex-expromissor
You should have heeded your own tagline. You failed (miserably) in knowing you were your own worst enemy. Now for the fun...

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105 posted on 12/27/2011 12:52:15 PM PST by bcsco
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To: algernonpj
You would have a point IF the information was not also corroborated by others and PAUL'S OWN WORDS..
106 posted on 12/27/2011 1:03:53 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: ModelBreaker
Do you think America has the obligation to intervene to prevent genocide? Anywhere and anytime? I don’t.

I would want a president to do everything possible to prevent American genocide by Islam(Iranian nuclear bomb).Ron Paul does not prove to me that he will pick up the phone on this one.Israel will be left to play out The Holocaust II.
107 posted on 12/27/2011 1:08:21 PM PST by shanover (These are the times that try men's souls....tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered. Paine)
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To: Ex-expromissor
I wanted to call you on this post from back early this year:

And do you think for one second that I or any of Ron Paul’s supporters would not be in favor of cutting all of the outrageous aide packages that you just painstakingly listed? I am on board pal! Where do i sign up?! Oh wait... Ron Paul and maybe his son are probably the only politicians that are “crazy” enough (has enough balls) to propose these cuts! There goes that plan... :-(

but figured you were hopeless.


108 posted on 12/27/2011 1:12:50 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: Enterprise
From the beginning of time which came long before the covenant of Abraham and the renaming of Jacob to Israel, YHVH’s children have been persecuted because of their disobedience. Hitler was nothing new. Men of his likes have been from the beginning. Now what was it that brought the children of Israel under bondage and persecution? Their disobedience by relying on man to protect them rather than relying on the constant protection of YHVH. Hitler didn't rise despite the Jews, Hitler rose because Jews then as they did in 2008 when Obama was elected voted the bastard in, just as YHVH said he would do.

1 Sam 8:10 Sh’mu’el reported everything ADONAI had said to the people asking him for a king. 11 He said, “Here is the kind of rulings your king will make: he will draft your sons and assign them to take care of his chariots, be his horsemen and be bodyguards running ahead of his chariots. 12 He will appoint them to serve him as officers in charge of a thousand or of fifty, plowing his fields, gathering his harvest, and making his weapons and the equipment for his chariots. 13 He will take your daughters and have them be perfume-makers, cooks and bakers. 14 He will expropriate your fields, vineyards and olive groves - the very best of them! - and hand them over to his servants. 15 He will take the ten-percent tax of your crops and vineyards and give it to his officers and servants. 16 He will take your male and female servants, your best young men and your donkeys, and make them work for him. 17 He will take the ten-percent tax of your flocks, and you will become his servants. 18 When that happens, you will cry out on account of your king, whom you yourselves chose. But when that happens, ADONAI will not answer you!”

Yah’s world history is cyclical as in history repeats itself. It is called prophesy and we know what is to come by what has already happened. Therefore if we do not learn from the mistakes of the past, we will continue to repeat them until total destruction is abound. Maybe if more put as much time and effort to learn history as they do in trying to find an infallible man(no such thing exists) to lead them, then maybe true peace could come to Jerusalem & the children of Israel.(which by the way are not just the Jews. There were 11 other tribes of the dispersion and because they would not then and will not today adhere to the doctrines of man (Talmud) they are to this day shunned by their brethren who were called to bring them back into the fold, not put a fence up to keep them out.)

Messiah came to tear down the wall of separation(Talmud) which the house of Judah does their damnedest to rebuild it back up and they wonder why persecution still abounds. So brethren, I pray for you and for Jerusalem, but I will not concede to the kind of man you claim to be a conservative when that man is anything but a conservative according to YHVH. Until you put down your Talmud and start doing the job YHVH gave you to do which is to bring your brethren back to the covenant, not by works but by faith knowing the works will come as YHVH opens their hearts to them, then YHVH will hear from His children and heal their land.

The Scripture Messiah taught & preached from(the Tanakh) tells us that Nazi Germany aka Hitler’s throne was not the bearer of the 1st holocaust and it will not be the last. But if we put our faith and trust in YHVH and do as he says to do...flee away from these wicked men, we can escape that persecution. There is no salvation from man, nor can there ever be.

109 posted on 12/27/2011 1:13:51 PM PST by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: ejonesie22

Once again, assertions and no links.


110 posted on 12/27/2011 1:26:26 PM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: Nachum
would he have sent American troops to Nazi Germany purely as a moral imperative to save the Jews?”

There are 3 criteria for an intervention such as that:

1) a mass violation of natural rights must be occurring
2) it must be in our own self interest as a nation to intervene
3) there must be a good chance of succeeding

111 posted on 12/27/2011 1:45:15 PM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Nachum

Of course we fought the Nazis which as a side benefit ended Nazi extermination of Jews. But I cannot think of any specific efforts we made to stop the Holocaust. So Ron Paul is not too far from what the Allies thinking and actions were in WW2. Jewish life was cheap back then....this is why Israel is armed to the teeth


112 posted on 12/27/2011 1:55:35 PM PST by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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To: algernonpj
FR has been replete with such links for several days now, and I know you have seen them, you have been whining about “smears’ on the very same threads...
113 posted on 12/27/2011 1:57:29 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: ejonesie22
Translation: you have no links to back up your post # 106.
114 posted on 12/27/2011 2:26:16 PM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: ejonesie22

I also see that you define presenting facts with links as whining. ROFL


115 posted on 12/27/2011 2:28:22 PM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: PALIN SMITH

...You and I and a stranger are standing in front of a burning building. I say to you “Hey, there’s someone inside, you’d better go save them.” Do you want the choice to be a hero or a coward. Or should we have a vote?


116 posted on 12/27/2011 2:35:44 PM PST by gargoyle (...a well informed public and a well regulated militia...)
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To: algernonpj

You are definitely a Paulbot...


117 posted on 12/27/2011 2:38:30 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: algernonpj
Oh, ok, you win...

Here are your links...

In an easy to review list format

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/ronpaul/index?tab=articles

Take Tylenol for headaches, Midol for cramps...

118 posted on 12/27/2011 2:50:18 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: gargoyle
"...You and I and a stranger are standing in front of a burning building. I say to you “Hey, there’s someone inside, you’d better go save them.” Do you want the choice to be a hero or a coward. Or should we have a vote?"

I've been there, done that!

Saved three people from a house fire......smoking in bed.

My father starterd the fire.....I smelled the smoke and saved us three before smoke inhalation finished us off!

The argument is different with a nation and the tools to do something....same as now!

119 posted on 12/27/2011 2:54:51 PM PST by PALIN SMITH (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: ejonesie22
Nice try, a list of all Ron Paul articles. I give you an A for creativity!

Once again you are unable to back up your post # 106
[You would have a point IF the information was not also corroborated by others and PAUL'S OWN WORDS.]

which was in response to my post # 104
[So now we’re supposed to take the word of Jeffrey Scott Shapiro, a former Washington, D.C. prosecutor who served on U.S. Senator John F. Kerry’s legal team during the 2004 presidential election, studied under Governor Michael Dukakis and interned for President Clinton in the White House]

on a thread about an article titled "Ron Paul in 2009: “I Wouldn’t Have Risked American Lives” To End The Holocaust"
120 posted on 12/27/2011 3:08:11 PM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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