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To: Nachum

I’m not in favor of political theater, but I have a hard time understanding the opposition that frequently appears on this board to the very idea that there have to be searches of luggage and passengers on public transportation, especially airplanes. It is necessary. It’s necessary, of course, because of Islamist terrorism. But it is necessary, and it seems silly or worse to blame the gubmint for that need. And I yield to no-one in my lack of respect for the current occupant of the White House.
I heard a while ago someone say that the only thing the Arab world has contributed to modern civilization is the metal detector. Seems about right to me. But that’s where the blame lies, not with the TSA.


12 posted on 12/26/2011 6:42:08 PM PST by JOHN ADAMS
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To: JOHN ADAMS

How long have you worked for the TSA?


16 posted on 12/26/2011 6:47:32 PM PST by sport
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To: JOHN ADAMS
It’s necessary, of course, because of Islamist terrorism. But it is necessary, and it seems silly or worse to blame the gubmint for that need.

The gubmint brought over Islamists intentionally and knowing full well that this would create an excuse for Police State in the minds of people like you. The government continues to flood us with Islamists to further its goal of Police State.

18 posted on 12/26/2011 6:49:24 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: JOHN ADAMS
I’m not in favor of political theater, but I have a hard time understanding the opposition that frequently appears on this board to the very idea that there have to be searches of luggage and passengers on public transportation, especially airplanes. It is necessary. It’s necessary, of course, because of Islamist terrorism. But it is necessary, and it seems silly or worse to blame the gubmint for that need.

Airports are one thing. But randomly searching train stations, football games, and highway truck stops is a ridiculous waste of time because they are so infrequent that the odds of a terrorist being there when one of these checks happening is much less than everyone in America being hit by a bolt of lightning at the same time.

The only reason for these VIPR raids is to prepare Americans for living in a Soviet Style police state and those that are implementing these VIPR teams are traitors and should be tried for that crime.

Soon they will be having roadblocks and searching cars individually, which is clearly unconstitutional, but ok because it is in the name of terrorism.
21 posted on 12/26/2011 6:52:19 PM PST by microgood
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To: JOHN ADAMS

The TSA is a first rate joke. It’s unionized, it protects the idiots it employs and does exactly nada to “secure” us. The problem lies with our Government and the PC bullshit that says islam is NOT the problem, and Oh, Look! A bunch of imam’s over there; hey everyone, roll out the red carpet for them!! When we get to the business of hurting feelings BECAUSE their damn “religion” is a hoax and perpetrates nothing but oppression and calling it as such is the day we can stop bitching about half-wits encroaching further and further into our lives. Our Government is to blame, liberals are to blame, communists in this country are to blame. The TSA is to blame for not telling congress it needs to profile (but then again, the TSA is over-run with hand-picked leftists already)


24 posted on 12/26/2011 6:55:01 PM PST by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: JOHN ADAMS
It is necessary. It’s necessary, of course, because of Islamist terrorism.

The objections arise because they are not profiling or looking for Islamists. They seem to be going out of their way to NOT do so.

If they were actively profiling it would be different.

25 posted on 12/26/2011 6:55:48 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Some folks need an education...don't give up or we'll lose the Nation - Grand Funk Railroad)
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To: JOHN ADAMS
It’s necessary, of course, because of Islamist terrorism.

It's also necessary because our government chooses not to control the borders, run a sane immigration system, and not punish immigration violators severely enough to discourage them. The policy is like leaving open sores without disinfecting and bandaging and simultaneously treating with antibiotics.

26 posted on 12/26/2011 6:55:50 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: JOHN ADAMS

Jefferson said, “ Those who will trade liberty for security deserves neither.”

And if I missed the sarcasm I am sorry, or else you are an idiot.


34 posted on 12/26/2011 7:13:11 PM PST by stockpirate (Romney and Ann Coulture are Big Government socialists, just like other republican elites.)
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To: JOHN ADAMS

Any more questions?


38 posted on 12/26/2011 7:17:45 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: JOHN ADAMS
But that’s where the blame lies, not with the TSA.

You couldn't be more wrong. The TSA is not tracking Islamic terrorism. It is barely even faking an interest in it. A cheap whore could fake an orgasm better.

The TSA has two missions. The first is to intimidate American citizens. The second, which is not yet [fully] implemented, is to track American citizens; NOT illegals, NOT terrorists.

Next on the agenda is the detention of political dissidents, per the military appropriations bill.

There is nothing "silly" about any of this.

39 posted on 12/26/2011 7:18:06 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: JOHN ADAMS

“... I have a hard time understanding the opposition that frequently appears on this board...”

How up to date are you on ‘Fast and Furious?’ This is not just a corrupt administration, this is an administration wildly out of control!


46 posted on 12/26/2011 7:56:43 PM PST by Rembrandt (.. AND the donkey you rode in on.)
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To: JOHN ADAMS
If the blame lies within the Arab world, why do we see blue eyed little six years old girls and grandmothers with walkers mauled, humiliated, and terrified. Everyone except the target population, i.e., of Middle Eastern origin. I can pretty much guarantee you that the next airline attack, should there be one, will not involve passengers. Anyone handling baggage is in a position to insert a bomb into a suitcase undetected. But really, isn't it more likely that the next incident will be something new and unexpected?
49 posted on 12/26/2011 8:28:03 PM PST by ArmyTeach (Our liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain ... USS Iowa BB 61)
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To: JOHN ADAMS

You are an idiot, or perhaps a TSA employee. Oh, wait—they’re the same thing.


50 posted on 12/26/2011 8:33:07 PM PST by dinodino
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To: JOHN ADAMS
It is necessary. It’s necessary, of course, because of Islamist terrorism.

SKA-REW that!

Search moslems...or better yet:

Don't
Even
Let
Them
Aboard

51 posted on 12/26/2011 8:41:34 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: JOHN ADAMS
simple we didn't ask to trade our liberty for fuax security
52 posted on 12/26/2011 8:47:37 PM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: JOHN ADAMS

Living in a free society involves risks. Life cannot be made completely “safe”, and nor do i want the government to attempt to do it. Its theater when they try, and expensive and invasive theater at that.

Profiling would be vastly cheaper, and vastly more effective.


54 posted on 12/26/2011 8:58:33 PM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: JOHN ADAMS
But that’s where the blame lies, not with the TSA.

Bullsh#t... the blame lies with us. Those fat tubs of lard, covered in blue tarps with little shiny badges aren't preventing anything except slowly desensitizing us to have complete lockdown of our country.

If you think the TSA is anything but a payroll trough for the mall security rejects and another union to provide "protesters against government cutbacks" you are kidding yourself. Next time you decide to go to the airport think about this....

What would those fat sacks of fecal matter do if say two or three six man teams with back packs roll up to the terminal in 3-4 cars. Hand grenades, 10 clips with some semi-auto weapons and satchel charges. Just unloading and rolling down the terminal with overlapping fire going from one end of the terminal to the other ... shoot and scoot.. then run down the stairs and off they go in waiting vans or trucks.. dump the stolen trucks/vans then hitch onto all parts of the US/Mexico border and jump/walk across...

That's with guys that may want to live... not even suicide commandos that would just roll up and onto the tarmac, blowing up jets, fuel trucks and anything else that go in their way. Including themselves.

What would those fantastic TSA agents do...

Nothing... that's what the TSA would do.. no.. I take that back. they'd do one thing.. they'd die. I want you to really observe the personnel that make up this "security" force. It's pathetic. Two or three fire teams I served with would lay waste to these clowns.

We are sheep.. all of us for tolerating what they've done and are doing to our country. Check points, SWAT teams for the department of EDUCATION (really???) , APC and full auto to cops that spend NO time on CQB and are more likely to kill each other training as opposed to a felon. That's why you here about old ladies and no-knock warrants going bad, it's because these clowns aren't responsible enough to train or be held accountable for murdering civilians.

We are screwed, this last little TSA bump in jobs is just the start. Our friends, family and neighbors are getting desensitized to the presentation of papers, strip searches and the boot on our throats.

Anybody that defends the TSA is a fan of the Three Stooges of the New Age Brownshirts.

Don't look at the pathetic citizens getting abused... look at the losers in the uniforms "just following orders"...

58 posted on 12/26/2011 9:25:01 PM PST by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: JOHN ADAMS
But that’s where the blame lies, not with the TSA.

Bullsh#t... the blame lies with us. Those fat tubs of lard, covered in blue tarps with little shiny badges aren't preventing anything except slowly desensitizing us to have complete lockdown of our country.

If you think the TSA is anything but a payroll trough for the mall security rejects and another union to provide "protesters against government cutbacks" you are kidding yourself. Next time you decide to go to the airport think about this....

What would those fat sacks of fecal matter do if say two or three six man teams with back packs roll up to the terminal in 3-4 cars. Hand grenades, 10 clips with some semi-auto weapons and satchel charges. Just unloading and rolling down the terminal with overlapping fire going from one end of the terminal to the other ... shoot and scoot.. then run down the stairs and off they go in waiting vans or trucks.. dump the stolen trucks/vans then hitch onto all parts of the US/Mexico border and jump/walk across...

That's with guys that may want to live... not even suicide commandos that would just roll up and onto the tarmac, blowing up jets, fuel trucks and anything else that go in their way. Including themselves.

What would those fantastic TSA agents do...

Nothing... that's what the TSA would do.. no.. I take that back. they'd do one thing.. they'd die. I want you to really observe the personnel that make up this "security" force. It's pathetic. Two or three fire teams I served with would lay waste to these clowns.

We are sheep.. all of us for tolerating what they've done and are doing to our country. Check points, SWAT teams for the department of EDUCATION (really???) , APC and full auto to cops that spend NO time on CQB and are more likely to kill each other training as opposed to a felon. That's why you here about old ladies and no-knock warrants going bad, it's because these clowns aren't responsible enough to train or be held accountable for murdering civilians.

We are screwed, this last little TSA bump in jobs is just the start. Our friends, family and neighbors are getting desensitized to the presentation of papers, strip searches and the boot on our throats.

Anybody that defends the TSA is a fan of the Three Stooges of the New Age Brownshirts.

Don't look at the pathetic citizens getting abused... look at the losers in the uniforms "just following orders"...

59 posted on 12/26/2011 9:25:01 PM PST by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: JOHN ADAMS
...I have a hard time understanding the opposition that frequently appears on this board to the very idea that there have to be searches of luggage and passengers on public transportation...

What you say was true eight or so years ago. But for the time being there is no need for such intrusion.

The expansion of power of TSA over us has accelerated under 'bam and Big Sis. First it was virtual strip searches, and now this.

Consider:
TSA is unionized and owes its existence to Dims who demanded its unionization.
I'm not aware offhand anyway, of a single terrorist being caught by the TSA.
What safety we've enjoyed since 9-11 should be credited to a vigilant populace. This seems to work everytime it's tried.
Bam and Big Sis have quietly redefined the word "terrorist" beyond it's prior understanding as referring to islamist terrorists. Anybody can now be labeled as such.
If they say you're a terrorist, they can throw you in jail without due process.
The terrorists don't need to ride the train or bus to blow it up. They can simply mine the tracks. And there are miles of tracks.
TSA is best at bullying, belittling and intimidating passengers. I know that I will avoid traveling anywhere if there is a TSA gauntlet to pass through. I assume many others will do the same.
Bam and Sis's expansion of TSA has more to do with expanding the Dim roster of voters ("remember who got you that spiffy uniform, son") and creating an auxiliary police force that can be put into action to quell dissenters.
We like to think 'Bam is dumb around here, but he knows exactly what he's doing: building an autocracy brick by brick. He makes Lenin look like an amateur.

67 posted on 12/26/2011 10:54:40 PM PST by tsomer
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To: JOHN ADAMS
It is necessary. It’s necessary, of course, because of Islamist terrorism. But it is necessary, and it seems silly or worse to blame the gubmint for that need.

So I wonder how many of the vast number of employees of the Federal Government were dismissed to make way for the huge number of new TSA employees roaming the streets? For that matter, I wonder how many Federal employees have been laid-off at all over the past 4 years?

There are 120,000 IRS employees. The equivalent of about 6 US Army divisions. I wonder how many of them them could have been purged to make room for TSA employees?

68 posted on 12/26/2011 11:09:19 PM PST by VeniVidiVici ("Si, se gimme!")
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To: JOHN ADAMS

I totally agree!!


69 posted on 12/27/2011 12:27:37 AM PST by 56newblog (Registered Islamophobe)
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