Posted on 12/25/2011 6:06:59 PM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
Setting a memorial day for the Armenian genocide would mark a first in Israeli history; consideration stokes criticism that Israel is trying to incite Turkey.
A Knesset committee Monday will consider setting a memorial day for the Armenian genocide, marking a first in Israeli history and stoking criticism that Israel is trying to incite Turkey.
Though a proposal for such a day was submitted in the Knesset eight months ago, action has been delayed until today. The Knesset Education, Culture and Sports Committee, headed by MK Alex Miller (Yisrael Beiteinu ), will discuss the issue in the public hearing; Speaker Reuven Rivlin and Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon will take part.
Up to now, proposals for recognizing the Armenian genocide have been considered by closed sessions of the Knesset's Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee. That committee rejected the proposals a number of times.
Recognition of the Armenian genocide is a sensitive diplomatic issue. Last week, the lower house of France's parliament approved a bill that bans denial of the genocide, which occurred 96 years ago. The law imposes a one-year jail sentence and a 45,000-euro fine.
This step triggered a diplomatic crisis between France and Turkey. Ankara recalled its ambassador, canceled diplomatic, economic and military exchanges with France, and banned the landing of French military planes at its airports and the docking of French ships at its harbors.
(Excerpt) Read more at haaretz.com ...
Turkey wants nasty relations with its former friend. Looks like they are getting it! I hope they’re happy about it in Ankara /sarc
More of a strategic matter for Israel. France probably doesn’t have to be wary of Turkey.
Very True. It is all a matter of strategy.
DO IT! turkey has shown no hesitance in provoking Israel. Let the “Zionist entity”, as Turks increasingly call Israel, reciprocate. Turkey will find that having the Jewish state - home to Yad Vashem, which commemorates The Holocaust, declare this a genocide carries far more weight that any other state.
I say “Do it!” too...
While it’s true France has little to fear from Turkey, there are a heck of a lot more Turks living in France than there are in Israel. Erdogan has addressed the ex-pats in European countries on a number of occasions and reminds them not to ‘assimilate’ to their host country. Doesn’t take a lot to ignite the more fanatical amongst those living outside ‘Turkiye’.
Yes, but it’s a different calculation. Sometimes I wonder if France wants to trigger an explosion ...
I could never understand why some get upset when a nation finally recognizes that MUSLIM Turks (Ottoman Empire) comitted GENOCIDE against CHRISTIAN Armenians.
This was an issue during the Iraq War a few yrs ago...some got upset when Congress recognized the Armenian genocide. Critics of this claimed that it would hurt relations with Turkey...even though Turkey already refused US to use Turk airspace to bomb Iraq
I majored in History in college...and studying the Armenian genocide was quite difficult....just the sheer brutality and senselessness of it....and the ignorance of the genocide from the west
France is passing the same Armenian Genocide recognition.
Good ole Ottomans.
Sharia Law...evil and deadly.
http://www.armenian-genocide.org/genocide.html
It would be far better IMO if the Armenians would just come out and admit this (the following) rather than year-after-year, country-after-country demand resolutions condemning modern Turkey for something that happened 100 years ago before modern Turkey was founded. To wit,
"the admission of the Armenian Genocide by Turkey is an issue of secondary importance for us. The following issue must be raised: a cruel crime was committed against the Armenian people. The whole nation was actually annihilated, our lands were seized and our 3,000-year-old culture was destroyed. This is not only a cruel crime, but also a great injustice. Therefore, our true demand is compensation for this injustice. The world must know about what happened, and we have to a great extent succeeded. The Turkish side is well aware that the step to follow the admission of the Armenian Genocide by Turkey will be a demand for compensation and return of the lands. This is the reason why Turkey will not admit the Armenian Genocide . . . ."
So what happens now? the Kurds also demand the same territory -- who by the way were also guilty of murdering tens (if not hundreds) of thousands of Armenians -- as well was Kaiser Wilhelm II German Emperor aware and, some say, abetted the attempted extermination of Russia's ally the Armenians with whom Germany was battling in W.W.I.
I recall that the article (I linked) admits that Turkey acknowledges the deaths. The horrors did in fact happen. There are elsewhere claims of hundreds of thousands of Turk civilians killed also.. the real issue seems to be territory and retribution demanded of modern Turkey.
(Lawsuits have forced insurance companies to pay Armenians in recent years.)
BTW, speaking of destroying Armenian culture -- how much was destroyed when Armenians were forced under the control of the Bolsheviks (1918)? I think Armenia was the first Soviet "republic" established outside of Russia.
About time!Tthe reason for not recognizing it was that Turks go completely *nuts* to everyone who does, even US is afraid of pissing them off. Fundamentally, if you read about the Genocide in Wiki,for example. You see that tactics and methodology of murder is very similar to what Nazi’s did during the Holocaust. To me the lesson the Nazi learned from Turks and Soviets where later applied to The Jewish extermination. It was basically Soviet Gulags+Armenian Genocide=Holocaust. Even Hitler or Eihman,don’t remember which one,ones replied in regard to being punished:did anybody do anything about Armenian Genocide?Did anybody got prosecuted?
Bad timing but what the heck. There will never br comvenient time for acknowledgment of this travesty.
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