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1 posted on 12/22/2011 4:54:51 PM PST by WilliamIII
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Imagine a symphony, a grand symphony. Every note, exquisite, infinitely complex, and yet perfect in every way. Melodies are completely satisfying, everything works in a seemless, unimaginable way.

Now imagine this symphony coming into existence without a composer. Poof, the sheet music just appeared one day.

Doesn’t sound plausible to me.


82 posted on 12/22/2011 9:05:20 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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Read the Science of God by Gerald Schroeder. Dr. Schroder earned his B.S.,M.S., and PhD in Physics from the Mass. Institute of Technology. He reminds us how rich is our science and how true the Bible.


84 posted on 12/22/2011 9:24:33 PM PST by littlesorrel
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Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists and why we are here"....so we're here because there's "spontaneous creation", and we know there's spontaneous creation because we're here - it's called circular reasoning, and every first year general science student knows to be on the lookout for it - so much for big shot physicists......
86 posted on 12/22/2011 9:48:24 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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Is it rational to believe in God?

"...Hawking states that a "law of gravity" exists and this (not God) creates the universe."

Hawking the atheist has no explanation for and cannot give an account of those things which are necessary for rationality itself; namely, universal, invariant, abstract entities.

The laws of logic are not material in nature - they do not extend into space. As universal, they are not experienced to be true. As invariant, they don't fit into what materialists like Steven Hawking tell us about the constantly changing nature of the universe. Since an atheist universe cannot account for the laws of logic in the first place, Hawking has no rational basis for his claims about laws, of gravity or any other kind.

Cordially,

87 posted on 12/22/2011 9:55:43 PM PST by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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I don’t have the faith it would take to be an atheist.


88 posted on 12/22/2011 10:06:34 PM PST by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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“Is it rational to believe in God?”

I come from five generations of Lutheran ministers.

Faith - not rational analysis - is the foundation of religious belief.

“Free Will” is a fundamental part of Lutheran doctrine.

Yet, man has been denied the ultimate act of “Free Will.”

Man has no choice as to whether he will - or will not - exist.

God makes that decision, and places a man’s soul inside the helpless body of an infant who has no power to control external circumstances or to even think rationally.

True “Free Will” would require that God ask each man whether he does - or does not - wish to be created.

It also requires that the man has the judgment, knowledge, and life experience of a mature adult, not an infant.

Many people would choose to be created.

Personally, I wouldn’t gamble with my life or my soul, and I would choose not to be born.

Lutheran doctrine also emphatically states that God is all powerful and all knowing.

Once again, rationally, this violates “Free Will.”

If God is my creator, but God also knows everything I will do or believe in my life, then God knows whether or not my soul will go to Hell - BEFORE he creates me.

Ouch!

A God that willfully creates souls he knows will spend all eternity in Hell?

That’s not rational.


92 posted on 12/23/2011 2:38:35 AM PST by zeestephen
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SFL.


95 posted on 12/23/2011 6:53:36 AM PST by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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Historically, people who are fat, dumb and happy eschew religion, in the same way they eschew hard work, morality and everything honorable. Unfortuately, people are at their best only when times are hard, and they’re ruined by prosperity.


98 posted on 12/23/2011 12:14:50 PM PST by Spok (From hope and change to change is hopeless. In just the first term.)
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