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To: elkfersupper

>>>Group sex has been happening since the dawn of mankind.<<<<

As an exception, not the rule. Many studies, and just plain observation, would indicate that unlike our primate cousins, human beings tend to prefer to copulate in private.

>>>Exactly how do you think we all got here?<<<

If the orgy was a human constant, it would have been enshined culturally as the norm. It isn’t. I can’t think of a single human culture in which people copulate en masse and then produce babies. Instead, the cultures that I’m familiar with all have ceremonial marriage between two people, who are then encouraged to find a place alone and do what must be done.

>>>Monogamism is a hopeful wish of the female of our species... It is an admirable idea and goal, but unattainable by and large.<<<

Maybe, but you contradict yourself. First, you write that group sex is the norm. Then you write that females want a monogamous relationship. That’s not a consistent argument, assuming that women are taking part in the group sex. By the way, self-restraint is attainable. Sure, there are women with whom sex would be a pleasant adventure... and then there’s my self-restraint. And any affair would take place, again, in private, with just the two of us, not in a room with 30 others. And if my wife found out, she wouldn’t shrug her shoulders and say, “Well, monogamy isn’t normal, and who were the other dozen people involved?”

My gut feeling is that the article itself is research porn -you know, an article on the titillating subject of sexually active teenagers designed to inflame emotions. I put this article in the same category as the myth of the rainbow-colored lipstick blow jobs of the 1990s. Sort of like sexually provacative phrenology.


139 posted on 12/23/2011 11:06:31 AM PST by redpoll
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To: redpoll
Excuse me if I don't delve into the study.

At my age I have somewhere between 4 minutes and 40 years to live. Probably closer to 4 minutes. I don't need some cranky-ass woman or partner or whatever you want to call it driving the boat the whole time.

149 posted on 12/23/2011 1:54:21 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: redpoll
If the orgy was a human constant, it would have been enshined culturally as the norm. It isn’t. I can’t think of a single human culture in which people copulate en masse and then produce babies. Instead, the cultures that I’m familiar with all have ceremonial marriage between two people, who are then encouraged to find a place alone and do what must be done.

This is especially true in post-hunter-gatherer cultures. A man will work harder to support children that he knows are HIS, than he will work for a collective. A woman who wants a man to work hard for the sake of her and her kids needs to ensure that he has confidence the kids are his.

211 posted on 12/24/2011 8:40:46 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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