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To: GeronL

26 have not died due to the shot. 26 have died after having the vaccine, but there’s no plausible reason to believe that the vaccine is the cause of the deaths.

Did you hear the recent report from Australia?
Curr Opin Obstet Gynecol. 2011 Nov 24. [Epub ahead of print]
Cervical cancer in the human papillomavirus vaccination era.
Tay SK.
Source

Department of Obstetrics and Gynaecology, Singapore General Hospital, Singapore, Republic of Singapore.
Abstract
PURPOSE OF REVIEW:

To evaluate the potential changes in the epidemiology of cervical cancer based on recently emerged information from mass vaccination programs beyond clinical trials.
RECENT FINDINGS:

Limited sensitivity and unequal access to screening have resulted in an imbalance in distribution of the burden of cervical cancer between developed and developing countries, between metropolitan and rural areas in developed countries, and among women from different ethnic groups. In screened populations, there is a relative increase in incidence of cervical cancer in young and elderly women, and an increased proportion of adenocarcinoma. A high coverage of the target population has been achieved in human papillomavirus (HPV) vaccination programs in many countries. After 3 years of mass vaccination of adolescent girls, surveillance data in Australia confirmed a significant reduction in high-grade abnormalities for girls aged 18 years and below.


110 posted on 12/22/2011 6:55:25 PM PST by hocndoc (WingRight.org: Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: hocndoc

“You seriously do not understand what you are copying and pasting.”

Quite the opposite. You don’t have a clue what I’m talking about here.

So, I’ll repeat myself.

There is a distinction between diseases which are required vaccinations and between HPV. HPV is not a communicable disease, like fr’nstance measles, because it is not spread in the same fashion.

End stop.

This distinction is why the two diseases are treated differently in public policy. They require different approaches from a public health standpoint in order to prevent their spread. What is effective for one, is not as effective for the other.

This isn’t rocket science.

“It is, however, a contagious group of viruses and spread by contact. Therefore, communicable.”

That’s not the definition. A communicable disease is one that is spread through casual contact. HPV is not, ergo it is not a communicable disease.

“Further, it is not spread by “a small number.” Over 20 million in the US are infected, 6.2 million new cases each year.”

You haven’t understood what I’m saying at all. I’ll rephrase, and hopefully you will get it.

Inoculation works best for diseases that have little variance across the population as a whole. This isn’t true for HPV, as there are very disproportionate rates of both infection and transmission.

This means that any vaccination effort can be undermined by a small minority of those who are not inoculated, and it can be easily reintroduced into the community.

What this means is that if you do get 80 percent participation, that 20 percent is still going to effectively keep HPV going. This is problematic because it makes vaccination useless. The risk of contracting HPV won’t change significantly even with this high of a participation rate.

“There was not a ‘lack of research.’ “

Again, I did not say there was a lack of research. I said there was a lack of testing. Gardasil has not been properly tested before being used, because it cannot be used on lab rats. Rather then test, it has simply been released into the population, when the side effects were unknown. In essence the drug is being tested now and problems are arising.

“insulin manufactured the same way.”

For sure, but this is not insulin. Different drugs have different interactions, and they need to be properly tested before being injected into people. This due diligence with Gardasil was not done.

“we now have over 10 years’ follow up.”

At the cost and risk to the life and health of 12 million women and girls. This is incredibly scandalous.

“Imagine a cut in abnormal paps and repeat paps”

Imagine your little girl dying of a blood clot that could have been prevented had she not gotten a gardasil shot.

3 years testing is grossly inadequate.


112 posted on 12/22/2011 7:30:50 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: hocndoc

“26 have not died due to the shot. 26 have died after having the vaccine, but there’s no plausible reason to believe that the vaccine is the cause of the deaths.”

Try 38. The count keeps rising.

Gardasil was not properly tested beforehand, you have absolutely no basis to make the claim.

The facts as they stand is that a statistically significant number of young women are suffering from fatal blood clots after getting the gardasil shot.

Until these are properly investigated, we can’t be so flippant as to dismiss them as you have done here.


113 posted on 12/22/2011 7:35:10 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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