[RayTheSpook]

Well if that's how you feel about Islam then you might as well ban all faiths, you can't be halfway pregnant, if you tolerate one faith you basically end up tolerating them all. Sam Harris wrote an ingenious book about this liberal tolerance of Islam, and yes he goes after all faiths including Christianity. Now I'm not in doubt of a god, I just doubt every explanation offered up in history thus far, they have something to offer but if they compel nations to commit suicide then we might as well nuke them and ask questions about their faith later, in some sense it makes no sense to occupy them, either tolerate them or obliterate them, everything else would be half measures. I have no love for Islam and it's spread throughout Europe and the States, but there seems no way to stop that unless all faiths are banned or their homelands are destroyed, which would amount to genocide of a religion. Their seems to me no easy answers to this that don't amount to war.

Bases in other countries seems like nation building liberalism to me.Yeah great it gives jobs to people in other countries, I'm sure the unemployed love hearing that one.

If a state official or diplomat lies and causes forces to be used in a war I think that maybe something we should know about, I guess Manning had the guts to put his life where his words were and thought he was doing the right thing, most people would not risk their lives to expose corruption, most people are cowards.

The only people that have been duped seems to me the liberals in the Republican party that want business as usual to continue, contracts to be fulfilled and liberalism to spread itself ever further across the globe.

[oneamericanvoice]

The “ban all religions..’ argument is a liberal one, based on the notion of equality. It is the basis of communism. I never stated anything about a ban, and you know it. We have the right to practice religion. But we also have the right to protect ourselves against people who would do us harm in the name of their religion. Your agnosticism fuels the anti-religion views.

Having a base in a host country at their request is not nation building. Do you think we are building South Korea, Germany, Japan, etc?

You still didn’t give me your social security, birthdate, full name, bank account number and pin. If Bradly did, would you still call him a hero? There are things that are need-to-know basis. Not everyone needs to know everything. BTW, tell me who lied to use forces in war, or was that hypothetical?

If you are calling me a liberal, then you couldn’t be farther from the truth. The Republicans are fighting for a full year of unemployment benefits rather than the 2 months the Dems want, they have 22 jobs bills in the House, etc. As for contracts, don’t you keep your word?