[caww]

".... we can be as proud of what we did in Iraq as we are of what we did in Japan and Germany after WWII.... As an American, I am damned proud of that legacy, as we all should be. If this doesn’t work in Iraq, history will not be able to say we didn’t do the right thing there, and possibly plant a seed for the rest of the Middle East. Granted, it doesn’t look that way, but as a nation, we can live with ourselves."

I fully agree rlmorel....I am very proud of the opportunities our nation has given others without the adequate means to fight for themselves and win....Although I do get a little testy about the extremes we go to to re-build their nations for they tend to take advantage and expect this to continue indefinately. Rather like those on welfare in our nation.

[rlmorel]

I agree. At some point, they have to be cut loose and fend for themselves. Unless we were going to make it a colony and drain it of oil (which liberal jackasses never seem to be able to convince themselves of any other intention, even though we are nearly a decade in there and have never taken a gallon of oil by force) then we give them their opportunity, and see how it goes.