Talmudic Oral Tradition is pre-chr*stian, not post-chr*stian. It was given at Mt. Sinai and passed on from father to son, from master to disciple, from that point onward. The only reason it assumed a frozen written form was that it faced extinction in the days of Hadrian (rot his bones). To attribute these traditions to the Talmudic rabbis who preserved them is dishonest. I suppose you have a flaming fit when Protestants reject Catholic tradition as being apostolic in origin?
Therefore I’m looking for common ground, just like I do when I’m debating Mormons. I do not accept Mormon “scripture,” and they do not accept orthodox Christian Tradition, thus I can only debate Mormons using the scriptures we share in common.
There is no "common ground." You either accept the Oral Torah or you do not. Period.
I do not accept your post-Christian Oral Traditions, thus I must debate with you using scripture we both share in common.
Again, Jewish Oral Tradition is "post chr*stian" only in the imaginations of chr*stians who like to pretend that their novel innovation is somehow more "Bibical" than the Torah given to Moses and Israel at Mt. Sinai. To label these traditions "post chr*stian" is especially hypocritical coming from a Catholic who regularly claims that Catholic oral traditions are of "apostolic" origins and who expresses astonishment that anyone could possibly believe they are of later origin.
That’s just common sense ecumenical work.
Ecumenism is false. One either accepts the True G-d and His Laws or one does not.
If you cannot or will not debate on those terms, its not my problem.
There is nothing to debate. I was merely stating, to the best of my poor ability and knowledge, the Halakhic position on abortion as opposed to the Catholic position. Judaism/Noachism is the One True Religion and all other religions (including ever form of chr*stianity) is false and it is objectively forbidden to follow them. I can understand that you don't accept this, but "this is not my problem." I merely state facts.
Have a nice day.
I do not accept the Babylonian Talmudic concept of "rodef," developed in the 400 to 700AD period, as representative of Orthodox Judaism. I do not accept the whole idea of "rodef" as being applicable in any way, shape, or form, to an unborn, innocent child.
I completely reject your attempt to claim this concept of "rodef" as applicable to "mandatory abortion," and furthermore I see it as grave apostasy, and downright evil.
If you want to claim that which is intrinsically evil is somehow "mandatory," that's between you and your god.
But don't try to come on this forum and claim your personal opinion in this regard somehow reflects "G-d's laws."
You state your own opinions. I also think it is extremely funny that someone who worships Jews but doesn't think he is good enough to be one thinks he can lecture others on what they are supposed to "think" about their own faith. You should concern yourself with your own pagan beliefs.