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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
So you'll need to come up with some Old Testament texts or Old Testament era rabbinic tradition to defend this novel idea of din rodef if you want to convince orthodox Christians that your view actually reflects "G-d's law."

I suppose the irony of a Catholic rejecting sacred Oral Tradition and demanding that something be found in a written "old testament" text is completely lost on you. Can one point out the hypocrisy in Catholic tradition without being accused of anti-Catholicism?

This anti-Talmudic polemic is precisely where Protestants picked up sola scriptura. The Talmud is the distillation into written form at a particular time of immemorial Sinaitic Oral Law. Before it was written down it was passed down from father to son and from master to disciple.

Do I have to justify Oral Tradition to you, a Catholic?

89 posted on 12/20/2011 9:13:52 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

You reject Catholic Oral Tradition. I reject post-Christian Talmudic Oral Tradition.

Therefore I’m looking for common ground, just like I do when I’m debating Mormons. I do not accept Mormon “scripture,” and they do not accept orthodox Christian Tradition, thus I can only debate Mormons using the scriptures we share in common.

I do not accept your post-Christian Oral Traditions, thus I must debate with you using scripture we both share in common.

That’s just common sense ecumenical work.

If you cannot or will not debate on those terms, its not my problem.


91 posted on 12/20/2011 9:21:33 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Zionist Conspirator
I suppose the irony of a Catholic rejecting sacred Oral Tradition and demanding that something be found in a written "old testament" text is completely lost on you.

Nonsense.

As a Catholic, I engage in scriptural proof texting every day on this forum and elsewhere.

To run across someone claiming to propound "G-d's Laws" yet be unwilling to share the scriptural foundations of those "laws" is unheard of, and calls into question anything you write on this forum.

95 posted on 12/20/2011 10:29:49 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Zionist Conspirator; DJ MacWoW

ZC, this is just beyond the pale. WHO, in your mind, could possibly prove what WAS, centuries past, Oral Hebrew Tradition? Anyone who says they can is way too full of himself. Notice, I said HEBREW because up until long after Moses, there were no Jews...or “Judaism”.
If you have never heard of the HEBREW Tradition of Dual Paternity, I suggest you check it out. Each and every child has TWO ‘fathers’. Abba in Heaven and Abba on earth. A spiritual Father and a flesh and blood father. No child is ever conceived without this. Therefore a child receives his/her soul at the exact nanosecond of conception. To deny this is to deny G-d AND humanity...as if a child could become human by fertilizing a human egg with a donkey sperm.
Abortion is anti-G-d. To say that Jewish babies could be aborted before they are three months in the womb is the most irrational thing I have ever heard.


97 posted on 12/20/2011 11:08:43 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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