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I'm pretty sure what I'm about to say is going to be misunderstood. I ask the reader to please finish reading the post in its entirety before reacting.

The position on abortion of being "not at any time and not for any reason" is a specifically Roman Catholic position. In fact, at one time there was a popular prejudice among Protestants against having babies at Catholic hospitals because if it came to a choice of the baby or the mother, the hospital would save the baby and let the mother die.

Right and wrong are determined by Divine Law, not by secular moral instincts. According to this Divine Law the vast majority of abortions are forbidden, and many of these (though not all) are actually capital offenses. However, in a very few special instances (such as when a baby is a rodef, a "pursuer" who is about to kill the mother, and has not yet arrived at the point of "ensoulment") abortion is actually mandatory (after "ensoulment" abortion is forbidden even to save the mother's life and is murder). But either way, whether an abortion is forbidden or mandatory, is determined by Divine Law and not by human reasoning, sentiment, or instincts--and certainly not by anyone's "choice!"

I do not post this to defend abortion (G-d forbid!), but to remind everyone that secular morality--the determining of whether a thing is right or wrong based on anything other than G-d's Laws--is the very essence of the secularism and humanism that got us here to begin with.

Let G-d's holy laws determine right and wrong in all issues.

The position on abortion of being "not at any time and not for any reason" is a specifically Roman Catholic position.

This has NEVER been the Catholic position.

Catholics, as well as all true Christians, believe that a mother's life is sacred and will permit any MEDICALLY-NECESSARY procedure to save the mother's life even if it results in the tragic loss of the baby.

In fact, at one time there was a popular prejudice among Protestants against having babies at Catholic hospitals because if it came to a choice of the baby or the mother, the hospital would save the baby and let the mother die.

If you're going to argue theology with Catholics, please study more than Maria Monk and JaxChix comix.

However, in a very few special instances (such as when a baby is a rodef, a "pursuer" who is about to kill the mother, and has not yet arrived at the point of "ensoulment") abortion is actually mandatory (after "ensoulment" abortion is forbidden even to save the mother's life and is murder).

What a load of hooey.

Let G-d's holy laws determine right and wrong in all issues.

Piffle. You cannot defend mandatory abortion from God's laws.

The position on abortion of being "not at any time and not for any reason" is a specifically Roman Catholic position. In fact, at one time there was a popular prejudice among Protestants against having babies at Catholic hospitals because if it came to a choice of the baby or the mother, the hospital would save the baby and let the mother die....But either way, whether an abortion is forbidden or mandatory, is determined by Divine Law and not by human reasoning, sentiment, or instincts--and certainly not by anyone's "choice!"

Very odd stuff!