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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
I do not accept the Babylonian Talmudic concept of "rodef," developed in the 400 to 700AD period, as representative of Orthodox Judaism. I do not accept the whole idea of "rodef" as being applicable in any way, shape, or form, to an unborn, innocent child.

The laws of the rodef were given by G-d on Mt. Sinai along with the rest of the Torah. They were not dreamed up by Talmudic rabbis, as I have stated to you numerous times. But you are going to continue to ignore that, aren't you . . . all the while expressing horror that Protestants could possibly doubt that the saying of three masses on 12/25 is an instruction of the apostles. Catholicism, it seems, is shot through with multiple hypocrisies.

I completely reject your attempt to claim this concept of "rodef" as applicable to "mandatory abortion," and furthermore I see it as grave apostasy, and downright evil.

It is an "apostasy" from the Catholic perpsective. Not everyone is Catholic. And this is not "my attempt." It is simple Halakhah. You think I make this stuff up? I suppose I made up the laws commanding and governing the extermination of the Seven Nations of Canaan as well?

If you want to claim that which is intrinsically evil is somehow "mandatory,"

What is and is not intrinsically evil depends entirely on Divine Law. Neither you nor I can change what that Law says.

that's between you and your god.

You mean HaShem, Creator of Heaven and Earth and Master of All Worlds?

But don't try to come on this forum and claim your personal opinion in this regard somehow reflects "G-d's laws."

I have been "coming to this forum" for over twelve years, and this is not my "personal opinion" any more than it is your "personal opinion" than missing mass on sunday without a good reason is a mortal sin. Different religions have different laws. Deal with it.

So far as I know, this is not a Catholic forum and Catholicism is not the supreme explicator of what constitutes "conservatism."

Do you want to boot all Orthodox Jews, Noachides, and Protestants from the conservative movement because their religious beliefs (surprise, surprise) don't agree 100% with Catholicism? I'm afraid a Catholics-only conservative movement would be very small in America.

Finally, you seem to think that I came to this thread to debate or defend my position. I did not. I came merely to state, to the best of my poor knowledge, the authentic Jewish/Noachide Halakhic position. I'm not forcing anything on you, so please feel free to disagree (until the eschatological triumph of HaShem and the Torah, after which you too will agree).

101 posted on 12/20/2011 11:18:37 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

“It is simple Halakhah. You think I make this stuff up?”

SOMEONE did.


106 posted on 12/20/2011 11:36:23 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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