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Update: very interesting revelation

http://news.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2011/12/22/2011122201525.html?news_Head1

/begin my excerpts

Park Sung-young “Intelligence on ‘Kim jong-il’s Death’ Ignored on Dec. 17”

2011.12.22

An allegation has emerged which accuses Presidential Office of ignoring intelligence on Kim Jong-il’s death sent by NIS(S. Korean intelligence agency) on Dec. 17.

Park Sun-young, a legislator of Liberty Frontier Party, in a telephone conversation with Yonhap News as well as in the emergency question session at National Assembly, claimed, “A White House figure tipped the intelligence off to Mr. Kim, a senior official at Foreign Ministry on the morning of Dec. 17, but he failed to relay it to his superior. NIS also notified Presidential Office of the same intelligence around the same time, but was ignored after being asked to ‘present concrete evidence.’”

Legislator Park emphasized, “The White House figure and Mr. Kim at Foreign Ministry went to the same school and I know their identities.”

She went on to say, “On Dec. 16, it was observed near Mt. Baekdu that fully armed N. Korean troops were on the move. This fits with Kim Jong-eun issuing “No.1 Order” before announcing Kim Jong-il’s death, which instructed units to return to their bases.”

According to her, Ji Jae-ryong, N. Korean Ambassador to China returned to N. Korea via Dandong at 11 AM, Dec.17. If Kim's death was discovered on 8:30 AM, there would not have been enough time for him to (be notified and) return to his country.

This implies that the time of Kim Jong-il’s death is not ‘8:30 AM, Dec. 17’ but ‘Dec. 16.’

She said, “None of Kim's three trains were moving on Dec. 15 and 16. Furthermore, Kim has to undergo physical therapy every morning between 8~9 AM before conducting his daily routine. It is a 100% fiction that he died on 8:30 AM, Dec. 17 while on a moving train.”

Further she claimed, “There were four separate pieces of intelligence since early December, regarding coup, death, or foul play.”

/end my excerpts

778 posted on 12/22/2011 2:15:08 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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And it was not on the train

http://news.kbs.co.kr/world/2011/12/22/2408074.html


779 posted on 12/22/2011 3:44:03 AM PST by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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Kim Jong-il ‘Collapsed Last Thursday’

North Korean leader Kim Jong-il collapsed on Dec. 15, two days before North Korea says he died, according to intelligence the South Korean government has received from Japan. The collapse was grave enough for top North Korean officials to convene an emergency meeting, though whether he died then or later is not known.

Seoul apparently received the information from Japan after his death was announced at noon on Monday.

A source on Thursday said a Japanese official attended an international seminar in Pyongyang hosted by North Korea’s Asia Pacific Peace Committee, and on the morning on Dec. 15, he met with the North’s nominal No. 2 official Kim Yong-nam. Everything went as scheduled, but Won Tong-yon, the deputy director of the United Front Department and vice chairman of the Asia Pacific Peace Committee, arrived 40 minutes late to the dinner scheduled to start at 7 p.m., looking distressed and telling the guests that he had to attend an emergency meeting.

Won then went to Sunan Airport in Pyongyang on Friday morning to see off the guests, who were scheduled to board a 7:30 a.m. flight for Beijing. He was apparently enraged by the sight of a Christmas tree in the airport lobby and ordered airport officials to dismantle it, telling them, “This is no time to light this up.”

“It appears that Kim Jong-il suffered a serious health problem on Thursday afternoon, prompting an emergency among the North’s top officials, but his condition improved a little, causing Won to come to the dinner late,” the source said. “Maybe the reason he got angry at the airport on Friday morning was that Kim Jong-il had died.”

That would square with an account by Liberty Forward Party lawmaker Park Sun-young, who claimed intelligence suggests that Kim did not die aboard his train on Saturday but around 1:30 a.m. on Friday at a villa around 40 km from his home in Pyongyang.

The summer villa has hospital facilities and is connected by underground tunnel to Kim’s official residence, according to Park. Japan’s Asahi TV reported that Kim died near the villa at around 1 a.m. on Saturday and asked his bodyguard for some water before he died.


789 posted on 12/22/2011 9:39:04 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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