Kim Jong-il is dead [Main Thread]

[AmericanInTokyo]

I’ll buy that. She has the looks of the actress a bit. I dont see effiminate Kim Jung Chol making an appearance at all yet in any of this, and I am sure that Kim Jong Nam has not yet arrived, if in fact he is going to risk going up there. It is odd about Jung Chol for sure. I guess they have given him some meaningless, paper pushing office desk job over at KWP headquarters, eh?

[mojo114]

You are exactly right.
TigerLikesRootster is the one that broke this story before Drudge and he is pretty quick!
Congrats to our TigerLikesRooster.

[caww]

Missionaries and businessmen of U.S. nationality who were engaged in charity work in the economic zone and Sinuiju were forced to leave...... A Chinese man who took a flight from Pyongyang on Tuesday said, “Foreigners weren't allowed to leave their accommodation after Kim Jong-il’s death was announced.”...... The North Korean authorities are also stopping foreigners from entering and are issuing no new visas until Dec. 29.

Well the clamp down on Americans isn't surprising....but I am surprised no foreigners allowed for Kim's funeral. Though I suspect China will have representatives there.

[caww]

Japan is openly speculating on the possibility of assassination of Kim Jong il.

I wouldn't have trouble believing that's what happened...and I wouldn't put it past ordered by Kim's sister and brother-in-law. They have such a history I understand, of being ruthless.

I doubt EUN has any power at all..rather a figurehead only. ...and that will remain as long as Kim's sister and brother-in-law can retain the power with the Military and the Money.

[caww]

China’s already put additional troops on it’s Northern Border anticipating some might try and escape N. Korea...and certainly China desires the status quo in N. Korea...they can use food etc. as leverage to keep them in line.

[caww]

I heard rumors that Eun was fattened up on purpose, and some plastic surgery to make him look like his grand-father before he was presented to the people a while back.

It’s be interesting to know if he married or not...that too would help secure his position in the eyes of the people.

[caww]

Those gals might be the dancers Kim often entertained himself with. I listened to a video of one of them who had escaped the country...interesting to hear her comments about Kim. When she first saw him up close she couldn’t believe what a small man he was.<p.

[caww]

China prefers Kim Jong-nam, who is pro-Chinese and reform-minded, and could end up backing him for the leadership in case the Kim Jong-un regime fails.

I was wondering how long before we'd be hearing about the other son. Very interesting. Things could get dicey if China determines they want Jong-nam at the helm.

Will be interesting to see how this all plays out as things move along.

[mkjessup]

Ceaucescu

Gesundheit!

[caww]

The back side of Kim is too big for the size Kim was....could he have had a double? This guys neck etc. is just way to big for how Kim has looked in his factory visits.

[AmericanInTokyo]

“Small” as in what way?? ( hee hee hee)

[AdmSmith]

One truly wonders if she is 在日朝鮮人

Maybe she has percentage of パチンコ

[AmericanInTokyo]

I know a man here in Japan who sneezes, and if he does so vigorously enough, he slides in the equivalent of the Japanese for “shit! (aw kuso!) at the end of the nasal eruption. It is the funniest thing to hear some times. ;-)

[caww]

Good read...thanks.

[caww]

You know...”small” type of “small”...itty bitty “small”...less than large “small”...”small-er” than big...those types of small. LOL!

[AmericanInTokyo]

More information on The Kid:

(Swiss) classmates also thought it strange how his obsession with basketball was indulged. On at least one occasion, a car from the North Korean Embassy drove “Pak” (Kim Jong Un) to Paris to watch an NBA exhibition game. And he got told off in class for doing a pencil drawing of Michael Jordan instead of concentrating on the lesson. “Pak” also got in trouble when a teacher who was checking pupils’ bags for cheat notes before an exam pulled a bondage-themed porn mag out of his bag. Outside class he would play games on his PlayStation and watch action films featuring hand-to-hand combat, particularly those starring kung fu hero Jackie Chan. Amazingly, Jong-un only revealed his identity to his closest school friend, Portuguese teenager Joao Micaelo.

We have reports he also tortured animals when he was small....

[AmericanInTokyo]

Bump.

Not the perversion part here.

[TigerLikesRooster]

Update: very interesting revelation

http://news.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2011/12/22/2011122201525.html?news_Head1

/begin my excerpts

Park Sung-young “Intelligence on ‘Kim jong-il’s Death’ Ignored on Dec. 17”

2011.12.22

An allegation has emerged which accuses Presidential Office of ignoring intelligence on Kim Jong-il’s death sent by NIS(S. Korean intelligence agency) on Dec. 17.

Park Sun-young, a legislator of Liberty Frontier Party, in a telephone conversation with Yonhap News as well as in the emergency question session at National Assembly, claimed, “A White House figure tipped the intelligence off to Mr. Kim, a senior official at Foreign Ministry on the morning of Dec. 17, but he failed to relay it to his superior. NIS also notified Presidential Office of the same intelligence around the same time, but was ignored after being asked to ‘present concrete evidence.’”

Legislator Park emphasized, “The White House figure and Mr. Kim at Foreign Ministry went to the same school and I know their identities.”

She went on to say, “On Dec. 16, it was observed near Mt. Baekdu that fully armed N. Korean troops were on the move. This fits with Kim Jong-eun issuing “No.1 Order” before announcing Kim Jong-il’s death, which instructed units to return to their bases.”

According to her, Ji Jae-ryong, N. Korean Ambassador to China returned to N. Korea via Dandong at 11 AM, Dec.17. If Kim's death was discovered on 8:30 AM, there would not have been enough time for him to (be notified and) return to his country.

This implies that the time of Kim Jong-il’s death is not ‘8:30 AM, Dec. 17’ but ‘Dec. 16.’

She said, “None of Kim's three trains were moving on Dec. 15 and 16. Furthermore, Kim has to undergo physical therapy every morning between 8~9 AM before conducting his daily routine. It is a 100% fiction that he died on 8:30 AM, Dec. 17 while on a moving train.”

Further she claimed, “There were four separate pieces of intelligence since early December, regarding coup, death, or foul play.”

/end my excerpts

[AdmSmith]

And it was not on the train

http://news.kbs.co.kr/world/2011/12/22/2408074.html

[caww]

Looks like Kims train never left Pyongyang:

Citing US satellite photos, the country’s national intelligence service director Won Sei-hoon said there was ..no sign that the special train, on which Mr Kim is reported to have died while on a visit on Saturday, had ever left Pyongyang over the weekend.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-16297811