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To: PieterCasparzen

Our political system is one which is designed to prevent radical political changes. So we can only progress through marginal changes because the People have to be convinced to go along with the change.

It was not designed under the idea that there would be political parties or machines or have universal suffrage or a media which is actively anti-American and anti-decency. These all have taken our nation away from the original design because that is what the People have wanted or allowed.

There will be no fundamental change until the ideas of the People as a whole are changed. That may well be impossible since Democrats have most of it convinced it can get something for nothing.


155 posted on 12/17/2011 9:34:27 PM PST by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: arrogantsob; Jim Robinson
Our political system is one which is designed to prevent radical political changes. So we can only progress through marginal changes because the People have to be convinced to go along with the change.

IMHO, rather that it can survive radical political change (let's abbrev. RPC). I'm differentiating between the political system as a whole as opposed to specific political issues that arise from time to time. It was certainly founded on RPC - quite a startling fact, it was literally an armed revolution. It experienced the Civil War; that was RPC on a couple issues that would appear at first glance to put the political system at risk. But both North and South retained representative governments which then reverted to one at war's end. There have been riots and violent demonstrations many times - RPC. There have been pronounced reversals of postion on politically-charged issues from all branches of the the government as well as in elections in numerous watershed events in American history. So, IMHO, our political system accomodates even the most radical changes, but the system itself survives. That being said, we now see it's flaws, in that by design it could not prevent the nation from being overrun by secular humanism, which then eventually winds up working to subvert the Constitution itself. Of course, man is not perfect, so he can not design a perfect government.

It was not designed under the idea that there would be political parties or machines or have universal suffrage or a media which is actively anti-American and anti-decency.

I concur 100%.

There will be no fundamental change until the ideas of the People as a whole are changed.

I agree, in that secular humanism has been institutionalized, i.e, become accepted and promoted by the established political, education, media, legal, healthcare and religious institutions. However, as the population does see the error of the thinking that has been foisted upon them and they have naively accepted, and they start to desire a shift back to truth, then, along with pressuring all the other instutitions to correct their course, they certainly should politically exert the influence of their improved thinking. Many in America have changed their ideas in the past 3 years (an example of the genius of allowing the population to elect the wrong man) and this represents an opportunity to reflect the change in the composition of representative bodies.

That may well be impossible since Democrats have most of it convinced it can get something for nothing.

You've hit on the key, IMHO, stressing the importance of grassroots changing of hearts and minds. If our elected politicians have all the right ideas but the vast majority of citizens is absolutely wrong and misguided, the elected politicians can not overcome the deficiency of the populus. Those who have not lost - or have regained - good and truthful thinking certainly should do all they can to lead or perhaps just influence others in a positive way.

Enormous hat tip to Jim Robinson on active grassroots efforts, as well as wisdom in navigating issues as they arise while staying a charted course of purpose.
163 posted on 12/17/2011 10:38:28 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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