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'Fountains' of methane 1,000m across erupt from Arctic ice
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Posted on 12/15/2011 4:29:02 AM PST by wolfcreek
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To: Psalm 73
"Methinks those vast underground resevoirs of methane are what keeps producing petroleum, (oil is not "fossile-fuel")."
Oil not a Fossil-Fuel?
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posted on
12/15/2011 4:59:43 AM PST
by
preacher
(Communism has only killed 100 million people: Let's give it another chance!)
To: Psalm 73
Methinks those vast underground resevoirs of methane are what keeps producing petroleum Just the opposite. When crude oil is exposed to heat and pressure, it continues to break down into smaller molecules including down to methane. The oldest, thermally mature oil fields have a higher percentage of natural gas.
In refineries, we do the same thing. We use heat and pressure to breakdown heavier petroleum molecules into smaller, lighter ones.
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posted on
12/15/2011 5:01:25 AM PST
by
thackney
(life is fragile, handle with prayer)
To: Clara Lou
Just because it has not been seen does not mean it has not happened. I am sure we have all sorts of monitors and detectors now to tell us what is happening out there.
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posted on
12/15/2011 5:04:53 AM PST
by
taterjay
To: thackney
Oh...well then why not capture the methane? Or is that not practical?
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posted on
12/15/2011 5:08:58 AM PST
by
SMARTY
("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
To: wolfcreek
Isn’t the same process some have suspected of being the mystery of the “Bermuda Triangle”? Methane gas released and mysteriously sinking ships and downing planes?
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posted on
12/15/2011 5:11:09 AM PST
by
WKUHilltopper
(And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
To: Psalm 73
In the powder coating business it's called fluidizing, The powder sits above a porous membrane, at this point you can lay a brick on it and it's like laying a brick on sand. Once the air is forced through the membrane it suspends or floats the powder to where it actually reacts similar to water and the brick will immediately fall to the bottom. This would have the same effect with water, once it get to the point of fluidizing it can longer support the ship. Not the best definition but it's the only one I have.
To: wolfcreek
Earth: “Here, pull my finger.”
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posted on
12/15/2011 5:12:58 AM PST
by
Wizdum
(Wisdom is what you gain when things go wrong.)
To: wolfcreek
There is Bermuda triangle setup... Buoyancy must be a doozy
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posted on
12/15/2011 5:12:58 AM PST
by
Flavius
(What hopes for victory, Gaius Crastinus? What grounds for encouragement ?)
To: wolfcreek
Drill now! Save the planet! Create jobs! Drop fuel prices. Go for it!!!!!!!
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posted on
12/15/2011 5:14:01 AM PST
by
SERKIT
("Blazing Saddles" explains it all......)
To: wolfcreek
The plot thickens, let the truth be know farting whales not man made.
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posted on
12/15/2011 5:14:59 AM PST
by
boomop1
(term limits is the only way to save this country.)
To: Psalm 73
Gov’t terrifies me. Methane fountains not so much :-)
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posted on
12/15/2011 5:17:16 AM PST
by
mewzilla
(Santelli 2012)
To: SMARTY
In this location, it is scattered along the ocean floor trapped in a latice of ice.
![](http://www.cedre.fr/fr/accident/deepwater_horizon/methane_hydrate.gif)
Some of these larger releases are due to shifting along the ocean floor in the arctic, exposing previously buried hydrates.
![](http://marine.usgs.gov/fact-sheets/gas-hydrates/gas-hydrates-5.gif)
There has been some success in drilling into these formation to produce the methane, but it is still new and the technology is being developed.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2436650/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2455581/posts
The potential for this source is very large, if it can be economically developed. The recent successes in the shale gas production have postponed most of the interest in methane hydrates for the time being.
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posted on
12/15/2011 5:20:19 AM PST
by
thackney
(life is fragile, handle with prayer)
To: wolfcreek
Something big is down there
and it’s farting.
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posted on
12/15/2011 5:26:07 AM PST
by
RichInOC
(Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
To: wolfcreek
And the earth continues to manage these fluctuations with a wave and a flutter, as temperatures ebb and flow, as they have for millennia....
irrespective of the activities of man.
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posted on
12/15/2011 5:30:37 AM PST
by
G Larry
("I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his Character.")
To: wolfcreek
Is this the REAL reason for the ozone hole, not my SUV?
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posted on
12/15/2011 5:31:42 AM PST
by
The Sons of Liberty
(Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
To: wolfcreek
Probably methane hydrates on the sea floor being disturbed. It's like snow on the ocean floor where the cold and pressure keep it locked in a “cage” of ice. Disturb it and the methane is released and then the one next to it and so forth.
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posted on
12/15/2011 5:35:28 AM PST
by
SunTzuWu
To: thackney
I should have read all the responses first.
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posted on
12/15/2011 5:38:17 AM PST
by
SunTzuWu
To: wolfcreek
Is it any surprise Siberia smells like a big fart? :-)
To: G Larry
I don't believe there was a reference to AGW in the article.
The Earth goes through periods of warming and cooling, oceans rising and falling. This is obviously a warming period and the release of methane may be symptom.
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posted on
12/15/2011 5:48:24 AM PST
by
wolfcreek
(Perry to Obama: Adios, MOFO!)
To: Clara Lou
Many
Methane venting suspected as cause of several past mass extinction events
http://thejacoblog.com/costa-rican-earthquake-releases-methane-bubbles/
We just watched the horrible SyFy movie “Ice Quake” last weekend, of course in this silly movie the methane earthquakes were blamed on global warming...
However, there is an element of scientific fact in the catastrophic potential effects of a massive methane release into the oceans or atmosphere (read up on theories of methane hydrate gasification as a cause or contributor to the Permian Triassic extinction (the Great Dying, Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum) and other mass extinction events possibly triggered by climate change)
Relatively local gas venting events in Africa in the vicinity of certain volcanic lakes have wiped out entire villages and all surrounding life and may pose future threat to millions
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jul/26/africa-lake-kivu-co2-gas
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posted on
12/15/2011 5:51:54 AM PST
by
silverleaf
(common sense is not so common- voltaire)
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