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To: ozzymandus
What lies did I tell you? Show them. Opinions are not lies. My experiences tell me older cars are safer. With today's vehicles I would not place my family in anything less than a full size pickup, full size SUV, or full size van. In the wreck I was in at age 5 in he back seat of a 55 Chevy I would be dead in todays cars. It totaled the car as it was hit in the rear at about 50 MPH. Totaled but no one was penned in. All I got was a broken tooth with a busted lip and I was an unrestrained back seat passenger.

Every day drivers operate far more complex vehicles than a car. They can drive and steer, eat a snack, drink coffee, smoke a cigarette, shift through 8-10 gears, get info talking on a radio or phone, monitor a large cluster of gages, even write down fast information like state line mileage off their odometer and have done so safely for decades. They are truckers.

If you can't talk on a phone hands free and drive at the same time safely then by all means get off the road because you likely are a poor driver under any circumstances. For such drivers removal of cell phone will not improve their driving skills. They have poor driving skills too start with. That is the real problem. Not the phone usage.

124 posted on 12/16/2011 1:46:36 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: cva66snipe
My problem is not with hands-free phones, although they are also a distraction. My main problem is idiots (who seem to be mostly teenage girls and drivers of company pickups) who drive holding a cell phone in one hand and are totally unaware of their surroundings. I agree that driver skill plays a large part in being able to talk and drive at the same time, but it's usually the worst drivers who think they can drive and phone at the same time. I disagree that truckers are such safe drivers, it's just that other drivers give them more leeway out of fear of being crushed by a semi. I've seen some pretty terrible driving by truckers, even being run off the road by 2 idiots trying to pass each other on a 2-lane road.

As far as old cars being safer, that's only by way of their being heavier. Some new roller skate cars are ridiculous. I looked under a Saturn on a grease rack once and decided never to get in one. The rear undercarriage was more flimsy that the coaster wagon I had as a kid, the tiny rear axle “supported” by 3/8” steel rods. However, new cars are designed to protect the passengers, not the car, and the car self-destructs around the passenger compartment. The car is totaled but the passenger space (usually) remains intact. Look at some old accident photos from the 30’s, 40’s, and ‘50’s. Those ‘40 Fords remained largely intact, but the people inside were reduced to hamburger from being slammed around in a steel cage full of broken glass. Anyway, I drive an extended cab 4x4 Chevy Silverado with airbags and seatbelts (and only carry a cell phone to make emergency calls), so when some kid plows into me while yakking with her friends, I'll probably be OK.

126 posted on 12/16/2011 3:13:48 PM PST by ozzymandus
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