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Newt Can't Win
newtcantwin.com/ ^ | 12/13/2011 | John Ziegler

Posted on 12/14/2011 3:24:46 PM PST by jtonn

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To: TomGuy

The liberal republicans lost the house majority that Gingrich won.

The RINOS are identical to democrats. Same animal, different stripes.


41 posted on 12/14/2011 4:17:45 PM PST by o2bfree
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To: jtonn

I’m getting awfully tired of people telling me who can or can’t win.


42 posted on 12/14/2011 4:20:20 PM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: jtonn

Romney can’t win, because conservatives will not vote for him, period.


43 posted on 12/14/2011 4:23:18 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Newt Gingrich 2012!)
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To: jtonn
Anybody could beat the Obozo unless the fix is already set. Given the fact that both houses just pasted a bill where, at the president's command the government can detain an American citizen in the US indefinitely without charges and without access to an attorney, I'd say the fix is already set. Today the Obozo said he will act, once again, without congress regarding the threat of another government shutdown. Frankly, we've already lost the opportunity to do anything in a legal since to retain our liberty and to save this country for our kids and grand-kids.
44 posted on 12/14/2011 4:24:48 PM PST by drypowder
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To: jtonn

www.shutupandgoaway.org

Please ignore the hype and piss bucket carriers for Obama.


45 posted on 12/14/2011 4:26:10 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: cripplecreek
The media is holding its fire now but will eat his lunch when the time is right.

And just what do you think they will do to Romney ?
46 posted on 12/14/2011 4:48:35 PM PST by uncbob
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To: uncbob
And just what do you think they will do to Romney ?

The same but Romney hasn't planted a minefield for himself. That doesn't mean either can win.
47 posted on 12/14/2011 4:54:09 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: cripplecreek

It’s already begun. Mark Shields on PBS News Hour described Gingrich as “emotionally unstable.” This will be the line of attack. The fact that Gingrich has been married multiple times, twice to mistresses (his current wife was his partner in adultery; great advertisement for the party of family values)suggests someone who has not been trustworthy in one of the most important relationships in life. I can’t imagine why evangelicals would be supporting this guy. To also suggest he is a committed, reliable conservative is ridiculous. He’s as much a progressive as Romney. At least Romney is a solid family man who’s been married to the same woman since high school, has a beautiful family, and hasn’t been pushed out of office because of questionable ethics.

I really don’t think average voters who aren’t particularly partisan will oust the genial, even-tempered (or so he appears) Obama for someone whom the media will portray as too flaky and unpredictable to have his finger on the nuclear button. Ain’t going to happen.


48 posted on 12/14/2011 4:54:26 PM PST by WestSylvanian
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To: willk

That doesn’t jive with the poll showing Newt beating Obama in all 12 swing states.

These polls jump around like a streetwalker.


49 posted on 12/14/2011 5:05:04 PM PST by RockinRight (If you're waiting to drink until you find pure water, you're going to die of dehydration.)
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To: jtonn
Newt's praise of Andy Stern.

And how does Obama feel about Andy Stern? I guess this will be a non-issue in any Obama-Gingrich contest.

ML/NJ

50 posted on 12/14/2011 5:06:36 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: WestSylvanian
The fact that Gingrich has been married multiple times, twice to mistresses (his current wife was his partner in adultery; great advertisement for the party of family values)suggests someone who has not been trustworthy in one of the most important relationships in life.

And conservative hero Rush Limbaugh has been married how many times ?

At least Newt wasn't caught lying about it on national TVlike all the democrat types starting with Clinton
51 posted on 12/14/2011 5:08:15 PM PST by uncbob
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To: jtonn; All

The left is calling Newt “devisive”.

Right now, they are compiling tons of video clips and statements from his past.

Newt and Romney both will have an extremely outside chance of beating Obama.

Both have questionable conservative credentials and both represent the stereotypical target that the left wing machine projects Republicans to be.

Either one probably would go down in flames in a general election.

Yet the Republican establishment is so fwady-cat wanting to immediately run to the “center” and be wishy-washy, romancing the average rube, that they fail to see how the type of candidate the establishment thinks will win is exactly the opposite of what 70% of Americans are looking for. This is somebody with Christian moral values and a reliably pro-free-enterprise, small-business, hawkish, outsider stance who will actually eliminate a fair amount of the government bureaucracy. They are undeniably NOT looking for retreads - anyone who’s been on planet earth since the 2010 elections must know that the average voter is definitely against political retreads. The political highways of America are strewn with political road gators confirming that fact.

Bachmann and Santorum are the only ones left who both exhibit a sincere dedication to conservative values and ideas and have a small enough political footprint so they perhaps would consider standing alone on a policy instead of working within the establishment.

Washington recognized the importance of the President having his own mind and not necessarily siding with any other politician or even what’s popular with the people, but doing what is in the best interest of the nation as a whole - for the future - even if no one else sees or wants to admit the truth. That’s the check and balance role peculiar to the Presidency, and it’s one that powerful career politicians may have difficulty with, IMHO.

Heck, Ron Paul would stand a better chance than Newt or Mitt. People would surmise that Paul would eliminate at least something, maybe, from the government. While he talks anti-war now, we all know that things change for a candidate once elected. Even the islamo-commie-wannabee in the WH now - who ranted against the use of the military - mysteriously gives any order that are really urgently needed. I don’t know if he’s drunk or not, but “somehow” the orders are given.

That being said, people with real common sense, and the right principles, are Michele and Rick.

Will all those blindly-loyal Republican establishment voters actually stay home or vote for Obama ? I don’t think so. Michele or Rick would do far better than many imagine today, IMHO.


52 posted on 12/14/2011 5:18:54 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: jtonn

I listened to this guy on KMOX today (Mark Reardon show) he is a nut wanna be Glenn Beck. He is a screamer and sounds like he is on some medication. Take him like one would with Ann Coulter! He says Mitt is the only one to beat the One.


53 posted on 12/14/2011 5:28:20 PM PST by mmanager
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To: jtonn

Yeah, New can’t win. Lets all circle the wagons for Mitt Romney, a REAL RINO!


54 posted on 12/14/2011 5:28:23 PM PST by GR_Jr.
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To: vortigern
Why can’t these idiots see they are playing right into the hands of the opposition?

The answer is really quite simple: pride

55 posted on 12/14/2011 5:29:46 PM PST by csense
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To: PieterCasparzen

“Bachmann and Santorum are the only ones left who both exhibit a sincere dedication to conservative values and ideas and have a small enough political footprint so they perhaps would consider standing alone on a policy instead of working within the establishment.”

Why don’t you give it up? Bachmann and Santorum are not going to win this thing... Gov. Perry, maybe. Otherwise it’s Newt or Mitt.

As for me, I would choose Newt. If you can bring Bachmann and Santorum to the top by your efforts - God Bless you, I just don’t see that happening...


56 posted on 12/14/2011 5:32:17 PM PST by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: jtonn

Oh look, another idiot with an inconsequential website.... =.=


57 posted on 12/14/2011 5:32:31 PM PST by cranked
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To: babygene; All
My reasoning is quite simple and quite stark.

IMHO...

Establishment politicians in the U.S. and in Europe simply do not grasp the magnitude of the economic collapse that is almost ready to start. Every industrialized nation is in a horrendous, disastrous situation. When I say collapse, I mean collapse - utter disaster.

The populations of nations are going to be beserk with anger towards politicians. Some politicians will inevitably deflect their anger by blaming other nations for their own internal woes. This is the lead up to catastrophic war. In Europe, this blaming is already happening. Businesses in Europe are already preparing for the possible (IMHO almost certain) end of the Euro currency and going back to their own national currencies.

From an American standpoint, the engine of the economy is small business and the individual investor.

The one piece of the economic puzzle that politicians refuse to go into is laws, regulation and agencies. Never in American history have these things been reduced. Instead, we only get more regulation every year. The beast has grown only bigger. This is a noose tightening around the neck of small business and the individual investor.

That is the piece that will forever stop small business from thriving, since there can be no small business revival, as it were, until this noose is removed dramatically, not just a few regulations changed here or there. The whole system is rotten from the inside out.

Consequently, a multi-pronged approach will be required in a few years:

1) Cut the noose. This is a revolutionary idea that has never succeeded before now at all - what kind of revolutionary will be needed to fight every politician and lobbyist in the country all at once ? A real outsider. This will allow for growth in GDP that will be real and provide real growth in employment, both of which can be sustained.

2) Cut the size of government by 90% over 4 years by eliminating whole agencies and departments. Note that this means absolutely no changes are needed for Soc. Sec. and Medicate, etc. THEY ARE FUNDED BY SEPARATE PAYROLL DEDUCTIONS. THERE IS $2.5 TRILLION IN U.S. TREASURY BONDS IN THEIR TRUST FUNDS - THOSE BONDS SHOULD BE REDEEMED FOR CASH TO SATISFY ANY SHORTFALL. Cutting whole Federal agencies will require unparalleled courage. It will put hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of working-age people out of a job. Included in this is getting rid of the EPA, etc. etc.

The first two are absolute essentials and must be done simultaneously to allow for a shifting of the workforce. Now there are many other changes that would help, some are:

3) The income tax code is not all that important to change for survival, but it should generally move towards a single rate; at least start getting everyone who has income to pay at least $1 in tax. But it is critical to not get distracted with this as it does not have to change for economic survival.

4) Do not mess with interest rates and money supply; leave them at reasonable levels and don't fiddle.

5) Understand that the casino-style stock market can only be held in check by reinstating Glass-Steagall and then add in that investment banks can not be publicly traded companies. They will stop risking shareholder capital once that's done. They all went public prior to the collapse - they knew that they were going way off track in their business model from sound practices and did not want to risk their partnership capital; so they went public and sold most of their shares before the collapse. OPM.

6) Go back to an 18% maximum legal interest rate. Anything above that is usury. Enforce it with tough measures, i.e., two times the interest is paid to the borrower plus court costs, adjudicated in a court of equity. After 180 days double the payment, etc.

7) Drop all regulation regarding the lending policies of banks; who a bank lends to and on what terms should be completely up to each bank, as long as the rate is legal and there is no fraud, etc.; basic business law.

8) Stop allowing large companies to merge so easily, it's not healthy competition. It only allows idiot companies to have things even easier and crush small and medium business even easier, then rip their customers even more since they no longer compete with each other. Let them compete.

There are a more things that would be great, but one can get the idea of the direction - and also easily gather from this list that things must be done simultaneously.

Some parts of the plan create unemployment, others reduce unemployment.

If a man with politics in his veins is elected, the Federal beast will be changed, but not reduced. This means a downward economic spiral as the Euro/American debt bubble collapses, millions of people's investments and pensions are wiped out, and unemployment goes beserk. The politician will not be able to simultaneously a) lay off government employees and b) know what to say to spark business ( I know lots of things, but I'm not a politician).

The uncontrolled economic crash is, IMHO, our future with Mittens or Newt.

Mind you, European nations have a good chance of being at war with each other within 10 years if America does not get her act together and show them - by example - what to do. It's called business leadership.

If America solves the problem - everyone around the world will push their own nation's politicians to do likewise. If not, the world better buckle up, it's gonna be a wild ride.

Financial talking heads are even all starting to talk about similar economic scenarios - David Stockman was on Cavuto earlier and I was shocked to hear a very different tone and outlook from him than usual. He emphasized, like I am, that politicians have no clue as to just how bad things are economically.

This is why I continue to press for Bachmann or if not, Santorum. I don't know the woman, I don't work for her, I actually prefer a male to a female President. But she's the one with the right ideas, the best hope.

The Republican establishment is out of their mind. They've talked conservatism so long without living it that they have lost touch with reality - conservatism to them is ideals but not followed through on. How else would they have acquiesced to building this Federal government into such an enormous beast. The establishment has compromised for 50 years and the day of reckoning is approaching. In the midst of Rome burning, they are still sitting there, jabbering, frittering away their last semblance of self-respect, worrying about "winning".
58 posted on 12/14/2011 11:29:09 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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John Ziegler needs to shut the fk up.


59 posted on 12/14/2011 11:31:35 PM PST by Truth101A
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To: babygene

Bachmann sucks.


60 posted on 12/14/2011 11:32:41 PM PST by Truth101A
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