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To: chilepup

I am a Paul bot, and proudly so, because I am a libertarian. Morality is a personal responsibility, the state can not legislate it, but that does not mean I have the right to infringe on my neighbours rights. So clearly I believe that the state has some responsibility, but they are limited by the constitution.
Currently the constitution is of no effect! I see no candidate but Paul who would return us to a constitutional republic, my only dispute with Paul is his stance on open borders, but since we have de-facto open borders, my objection with him is mute. Not one of the candidates will do what is necessary to close the border between us and Mexico, or our ports of entry.
I would prefer to not live in a police state, that is created by dems or repubs and that is where we are headed, because some people fear existential threats, instead to real threats to the republic, out of control statists like both parties establishments.
Iran is not a threat to the USA, it may or may not be a threat to Israel, but I am a citizen of the USA not Israel, and being free, I choose to let Israel fight her own battles. If by chance Israel ends up fighting Iran, the last I read Israel had above two hundred nuclear weapons, currently non of the areas Islamic republics have any, seems to me Israel can more than destroy her enemy’s in a few short minutes, I see no need to fight her wars for her at all.
As a Christian, it seems to me that the lord thought we should love our enemies, and pray for them, so I will pray for you, that you will refrain from personal attacks against those with whom you disagree, as I pray that I too could refrain from outbursts caused by my frustrations at my fellow citizens.


13 posted on 12/13/2011 12:18:15 PM PST by qman (If you are prepared you can't be surprised.)
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To: qman

I have to agree with much of what you said.

Our Constitutional Republic is fast coming apart at the seams. One candidate, and one only, proposes to swing the pendulum back towards the Constitution from where Obama and BOTH parties have swung it.

I don’t like him much. I like some of his foreign policy even less, but we’re destroying this nation faster from within, than our enemies ever could.

Since we’re paying more aid to Israel’s enemies than we give to Israel, cutting off both sides ought to be a net positive for Israel. (I would prefer to cut off foreign aid to ALL nations EXCEPT Israel(and Quadruple the Aid to Israel), but that’s just me.)

If anyone can show me how Romney or Gingrich or some other candidate actually plans to drag this country back towards the constitution, cut entire agencies out of government, cut a trillion from the budget the first year, and seriously audit the Fed, you can save me from pulling the lever for Ron Paul.


14 posted on 12/13/2011 1:08:39 PM PST by EasySt (2012... Sometimes you have to flush twice.)
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To: qman

LOL, do all of your Paulies get the same talking points. To deny that Iran is a threat to us and say it may or may not be a threat to Israel shows just how dangerous you are. You have no love for Liberty because you refuse to fight those who seek to destroy it...unless it is America, then you have righteous indignation.


15 posted on 12/13/2011 7:34:38 PM PST by chilepup
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