[MHGinTN]

I recommend the .410 0r 20 gage in the Saiga /// better second and third shot target acquisition.

[GonzoGOP]

I recommend the .410 0r 20 gage in the Saiga /// better second and third shot target acquisition

I've never fired the .410. But the 12 does emphasize the semi in semi-auto. You definitely have to put it back on target before you pull the trigger again. Unless you like putting holes in the ceiling instead of the target.

Like a prior poster pointed out shotguns are not point and click. You still need to aim. I prefer them because they do not overpenetrate and they dump a lot of kinetic energy into the target. The will knock down what you aim at, and won't go through the guy, the your wall, and into you neighbors house the way a 7.62 round will.

Another reason is in a home defense situation I may not have my glasses on. And it is likely to be a snap shot. I am under no illusion that i can put a shot into the ten ring under those kind of circumstances. With a 12 gauge the guy is going to be out of action even with a less than perfect shot. The quick second round from the semi-auto then comes into play to finish the job.