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Hi, mk! rabs is trying to stir up trouble again. :)

I don't think it's a matter of trying to 'stir up trouble', it is the usual result when divergent opinions clash. As I see it, taking out Saddam Hussein like the garbage he was, was in fact a good thing. The way it was done was quite frankly exceedingly sloppy and took way too long to accomplish but that is another debate for another time. Despite the yammering of the global leftist media, Saddam Hussein WAS pursuing a nuclear weapons capability and had we not overthrown his regime, we would now have THREE megalomaniacs (Saddam, Gaddafi AND the Iranian mullahs & Ahmadinejad) pursuing and producing nukes.

As it is, Gaddafi folded his cards and turned over his nuke programs to the US and the UK. Those programs are now 'residing' at Oak Ridge Tennessee, as I recall. That is a very good thing. Saddam finally twitched from the hangman's noose, and his barbarity ended. That too is a very good thing.

Here is the very BAD thing:

George W. Bush failed to finish the job, he talked the talk ("we will not permit Iran to acquire a nuclear weapons capability") but when he had a window of opportunity to take out that capability in it's earlier phases (late 2008), he didn't "walk the walk" and blast the Iranian nuke and development sites to Kingdom come. We had the ability, we had the opportunity, he was urged by no less than Dick Cheney and John Bolton to pull the trigger, but GWB failed to act. His unwillingness to act against the far greater threat (Iran), effectively undid all the good that was done in Iraq, and in Libya. (i.e., Iraq remains unstable and subject to Iranian subversion and ultimately, control, Libya's Gaddafi (admittedly a barbaric, murdering SOB) will be replaced by even MORE barbaric and murdering SOBs in the form of radical Muslims aligned with al Qaeda.

As I said: a very BAD thing. George W. Bush KNEW that his successor was an extreme radical Marxist by his words, deeds and declared intentions. It matters not that 0bama did not immediately withdraw from Iraq, it matters not that 0bama's then-SecDef (Leon Panetta) was the one who gave the go-ahead to kill 0sama bin Laden, what matters is that the greater threat (IRAN), has been allowed to continue on with effective impunity regarding it's own brutal oppression of it's people, regarding it's drive for a nuclear capability, regarding it's continued undermining and subversion of Iraq.

When George W. Bush failed to direct the war effort to INCLUDE Iran, especially when it was Iran that was supplying IEDs that were killing our troops in Iraq, that was an absolute dereliction of his responsibility as Commander-in-Chief. When it was proven that Iran was the power killing our boys via IEDs in Iraq, the damn B-2's should have been flying, "TARGET TEHRAN" in addition to any and every target of opportunity within reach.

Now I will be the first to give George W. Bush credit for restoring a sense of personal moral behavior to the White House after the depraved Clinton-Gore-Reno years, however his conduct in executing foreign policy was sloppy and shabby at best: he declared that America was threatened by an "Axis of Evil", namely Iraq under Saddam, Iran, and North Korea. So what did he do?

Iraq: overthrew Saddam, destroyed his regime, helped to institute free elections, freed the Iraqi people.

Iran: absolutely NOTHING. As I stated above, GWB "talked the talk" but failed to "walk the walk" and now Iran is on the verge of achieving what George W. Bush said we would never "permit" them to have.

North Korea: again, NOTHING. George W. Bush met with heroic North Korean author Kang Chol-hwan in 2005, who wrote "The Aquariums of Pyongyang", detailing the depraved barbarism of Kim Jon Il's torture camps, they spent over half an hour discussing how the North Korean people might be helped, and 'help' he sure did: 3 years later in order to continue the charade of those ludicrous "Six Party Talks" (addressing North Korea's nuclear weapons program), George W. Bush REMOVED North Korea from the list of terrorist supporting states in October 2008. Kim Jong Il's regime continues (just as Iran's), the North Korean people continue to suffer (like Iran), the nuclear weapons programs continue in development (like Iran), the threat to peace has INCREASED due to the failure of the Bush Administration to deal with all three legs of that infamous 'Axis of Evil'.

Sure, Iraq was liberated from Saddam Hussein. But Iran was ignored and North Korea was 'rehabilitated' in late 2008.

Some 'War on Terror'. Some 'Axis of Evil'.

And I've not even scratched the surface of the Bush Administration's failure to secure our borders, failure to institute responsible spending (reminder: it took 6 years for GWB to find his veto pen), which led to the infamous TARP, not to mention the assault on our civil liberties and freedom with the ironically named 'Patriot Act', the creation of the fascist infrastructure known as the 'Department of Homeland Security' and the 'TSA' (aka 'The Sanduskying of America').

George W. Bush presided over the largest expansion of federal power and excess over and above that of FDR and/or LBJ. And as icing on the cake, he let two good border patrol agents (Ramos and Campion) rot in prison all for the sake of his corrupt buddy Johnny Sutton.

"But alas, I digress".

For those students of history who may have wondered what America would be like had Nelson Rockefeller become President, one need only look at the Bush years of 2001 through 2008. (The only difference being that Nelson didn't have a Texas drawl)

That is one tragic legacy.

Sorry oWf, nothing personal but as you know already, sometimes "the truth hurts".