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Newt Gingrich - RINO or Genuine Pro-Life Reagan Conservative?
vanity | December 9, 2011 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 12/09/2011 1:31:59 PM PST by Jim Robinson

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To: Jim Robinson

Assumptions again.

Just sayin’.

But I do hope you’re right.


141 posted on 12/09/2011 3:49:22 PM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: onyx

I completely agree. Gingrich is the best candidate that we have to defeat the Plastic Headed Mittens in the primaries and Dumplin’ Ears in the general.
My Better Half and I were discussing tonight how Reagan, H.W. and Newt finished the job of imploding the Soviet Union.


142 posted on 12/09/2011 3:51:42 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

“Women won’t vote for Newt when they learn about his betrayal of his wives and taking up with mistresses.”

Stop putting us all in your little stereotypical box as if we can’t see the issues we’re facing as a country and aren’t able to make rational political decisions.

Thanks in advance.


143 posted on 12/09/2011 3:52:55 PM PST by Raebie (WS)
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To: Sudetenland
"Now that is one of the most wise and apt comments I have read on FR in a long time (I might even have to borrow it next time I write a commentary). Too many conservatives have the idealized vision of our Founding Fathers; they forget that they were merely men, with all the failings of their fellow men, who were blessed with a vision, the education and knowledge to see one step farther than their peers. If you listen to Newt discuss our heritage, our nation, and our problems and examine his approach to solving those problems, he really does stand out more as a reincarnation of one of our lesser FFs. I applaud your discernment in this. You are a wise observer. "

Thank you!

I've met two men in my life whom I'd rank in the status of the Founders.

Newt Gingrich and Peter Schiff.

144 posted on 12/09/2011 3:54:56 PM PST by PALIN SMITH (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: big'ol_freeper

“but women voted for Clinton, as they always do for the “swoon” candidate, because of the orgasm factor.”

I’m getting a tich tired of the characterizations of women being unthinking idiots.


145 posted on 12/09/2011 3:55:38 PM PST by Raebie (WS)
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To: Jim Robinson

The guy who called the Ryan plan to reform Medicare “right wing social engineering” will not get my vote.


146 posted on 12/09/2011 3:58:12 PM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: cripplecreek

Good grief.

I said from the beginning that there was going to be huge impact on Dem voter intensity if Newt gets the nomination.

Many of them were angry at Obama and might have stayed home.

But nominating Newt will have the same effect on them as the effect on GOP voters if the Dems nominated Nancy Pelosi: crawl over broken glass to vote against the guy.

Can it be helped at this point?

Nope.

But it’s a fact.

Dem voter intensity WILL play a significant role in the outcome. On the other side of the aisle, there may be a building voter intensity in the other direction among values voters who feel the party’s starting to sound too much like Clinton voters — not just supporting Newt, but going further by declaring loudly and often “I don’t care what he does!”


147 posted on 12/09/2011 4:00:17 PM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
NO way I can vote for Newt is the GOP race as is effectively a vote for Obama.

If Newt is the nominee, will you sit it out and let the Marxist have 4 more years to complete the destruction of our Country?

148 posted on 12/09/2011 4:01:30 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Newt’s a brainiac, and he’s well into his sixties. It’s to be expected that his full record will contain something for everyone to lament.

I’d urge everyone to view this montage of Gingrich comments from the Thanksgiving Family Forum:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeRhTjvAkuQ

The comment that most impressed me there was this:

“I had to recognize how limited I was and how much I had to depend on [God]...if you said to me we were electing somebody who believed that they by themselves were strong enough to be president I would tell you that person terrifies me because they completely misunderstand how weak and how limited any human being is.”

Gingrich deserves a fair hearing and I say that as one who was initially reluctant to give him one. After having done so, I think we have an excellent candidate. He has the courage to fight, the skill to fight, and he knows the nature and weaknesses of the enemy like no other candidate in this race. He knows himself at last. He knows the need of God in our lives.

Also, I think that as a 70-year-old President, Newt will be a far different person than he was as a 50-year-old congressman. They’re two utterly different political roles and he now has an extra twenty years of wisdom. Yet politically he was conservative then, and still is. Maybe he has saved his best for last!

He’ll be, at the very least, a capable commander-in-chief. Wouldn’t surprise me if he became one of the greatest.


149 posted on 12/09/2011 4:02:28 PM PST by Lady Lucky ( Merry Christmas to all)
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To: Raebie

RE: “I’m getting a tich tired of the characterizations of women being unthinking idiots.”

By significant majority women have voted for Bill Clinton twice, Al Gore, John Kerry and Barrack Obama. At the same time majorities of men voted for George H. Bush and Bob Dole over Clinton, George W. Bush over Al Gore and John Kerry, and John McCain over Barrack Obama.

When women stop voting like unthinking idiots perhaps they won’t be characterized as unthinking idiots.


150 posted on 12/09/2011 4:02:57 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" ~ Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: Jim Robinson
I agree with all you said here. The things that has got Newt in trouble over the years have luckily never become law.

Almost every elected official in Washington either despises Newt or will not support him. Many we can dismiss because they are people, let's say, not in favor on the FR. However, there are some good people that feel this way. However, I actually agree with Sen Lindsey Graham today.. he said something like Newt could be a great president if he can stay disciplined.

Newt has asked us not to be for him, but with him. This is true, we need to help him fight the good fight but be ready to set him on the strait path when he strays..

151 posted on 12/09/2011 4:05:11 PM PST by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: fightinJAG

Just wait till he moves to the middle after winning the nomination.


152 posted on 12/09/2011 4:05:50 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Jack Hammer
Just as a personal idiosyncracy, I would suggest that the answer is, “Yes.”

Using that simple-minded criteria, you might even come up with Hillary.

153 posted on 12/09/2011 4:08:38 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Holding our flawed politicians to higher standards than the enemyÂ’s politicians guarantees they win)
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To: mac_truck

Sean Hannity: What you said about Paul Ryan and criticized his Medicare plan and “right-wing social engineering?”

Newt Gingrich: Well look it was a technical mistake but what I said was true. I was asked a question, “Should Republicans impose a plan that is deeply unpopular. And, I said something that Hayek wrote about in The Road to Serfdom, rightwing social engineering is as dangerous as leftwing social engineering. I made a lot of my conservative friends mad at me. But, in fact, Hayek wrote this and he’s right. We have an obligation to explain to the country that any major reform that affects their lives until they decide they’re going to accept it… I was trying to say something very profound but I frankly backed off because it was too much noise to communicate.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/11/newt-gingrich-on-ryans-plan-as-right-wing-social-engineering-what-i-said-was-true-video/


154 posted on 12/09/2011 4:09:03 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Texas Fossil

I’ll vote for Newt if he’s the nominee.

But I won’t be among the surprised if Bad Newt shows up in the White House and he completely tells conservatives to take it on the chin at the most inopportune moment.

The answer to that, as with any president, is to do our level best to keep the pressure on him.

One of the things I think takes away from that ability of conservatives to hold him accountable is how “easy” it’s been for Newt to gloss over all his foibles and flipflops (I’m addressing mostly his political acts here). I wish a few more conservatives had been willing to “newt” him when he blithely lets the cow patties fall out of his mouth.

For example, on the Freddie Mac thing. He should have been whupped upside the head for that: a, for doing it, and b, thinking we were stupid enough to buy his “I was just a historian” Barbara Streisand.

Does that mean not support him? No. But don’t let him get away with bullcrap like that now. It will be even worse in the White House.

Sometimes I think Gringrich must be looking at conservatives, and events such as his little interview with Sean Hannity the other day, and saying to himself, “God, these people are easy.”


155 posted on 12/09/2011 4:11:12 PM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: big'ol_freeper

“Newt is the man to defeat Barrack O’Romney and lead the revolution.”

Hear hear.....


156 posted on 12/09/2011 4:11:23 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/Palin-West-2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.")
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To: cripplecreek

I believe that Newt is just as serious about repudiating and repealing everything Obama as he was about defeating the entrenched Democrat majority and their 40 year hold on power when he was in congress. And his conservative accomplishments after achieving that goal were in no way moving to the middle.


157 posted on 12/09/2011 4:14:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: fightinJAG

Well, the problem with that thinking is that Newt has been a Reagan conservative all along. It’s not a new thing to him. And he’s not pretending.


158 posted on 12/09/2011 4:17:24 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

With Cain out, my state goes to Romney anyway so I’m going to vote my conscience and vote for Bachmann.


159 posted on 12/09/2011 4:21:03 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Bigun
I will also note that Newt could have been doing many other things since leaving congress but has chosen to spend a great deal of time and money working at the grassroots level to help republican candidates in state and local races. That also speaks well of him IMHO.

Good point! He could have been running for higher office persistently -- like Mitt Romney. Ambition is not one of Newt's numerous shortcomings.

160 posted on 12/09/2011 4:21:45 PM PST by Lady Lucky ( Merry Christmas to all)
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