Tonight the following posts appeared on this thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2816294/posts?q=1&;page=51
The poster was SvenMagnussen. His statements are intriguing because they indicate a knowledge of the State Department and how it functions, now and it the past. Many people challenge him - I do not. At the bottom I have two comments which dovetail with his statements.
Barry Soetoro returned to the U.S. from Indonesia when he was 10 years old as an unaccompanied minor of Indonesian Nationality. He was immediately taken into custody as an abandoned child by the U.S. INS.
Catholic Social Services of Connecticut took custody of Barry and later appointed Barry grandmother, Madelyn Payne, as his guardian.
Soon, the Soetoro adopted [adoption?] was annulled and Barry’s name was legally changed back to Barack Hussein Obama II. He continued to be an Indonesian National. Catholic Social Services continued to be Barack’s custodian until his 18th birthday, thus the Connecticut SSN. Legally, Barack’s residence was Connecticut even though he was residing with his guardian in Honolulu, HI.
Barack became a Naturalized American Citizen a few years after his 18th birthday.
An American child abandoned by his parents is taken into Child Protective Services managed by a state agency. In the case of Barry Soetoro landing in Hawaii as an accompanied minor, he would have been taken into protective custody by Hawaii Child Protective Services if he were an American citizen.
Since Barry Soetoro was an Indonesian National when he arrived in Hawaii at the age of 10, he was taken into Federal Protective custody. Catholic Social Services of Connecticut was contracted with the U.S. State Department to administer their child services needs in 1971. Consequently, Barry Soetoro was in the custody of Catholic Social Services until his 18th birthday, the age of majority.
Although Barry lived with his grandmother in Hawaii, he was in the custody of Catholic Social Services of Connecticut. His grandmother was his appointed guardian. Catholic Social Services of Connecticut managed his life as a surrogate parent while his grandmother, Madelyn Payne, attended to his day to day needs.
It was Catholic Social Services of Connecticut that filed for Obama’s SSN. Consequently, he has a Connecticut SSN prefix.
Any American citizen, regardless of age, can move out of the country and renounce their citizenship.
Obots like to quote State Department guidance written after Obama was sworn in to claim a parent cannot renounce a child’s citizenship. This is State Department guidance for 2009.
This was not the guidance for 1966,67.
It’s guidance, not law. The Obama Administration instituted the policy a parent cannot move out of the country and renounce a child’s U.S. Citizenship.
Obot’s consider the guidance issued in 2009 to apply to 1966, 1967. It’s laughable.
Obama was adopted by Lolo Soetoro and renamed Barry Soetoro. Lolo Soetoro was listed as the birth father on Barry Soetoro’s Hawaiian COLB after the adoption was finalized.
Why wouldn’t the SoS in 1966 or 1967 accept an Oath of Renunciation from a kid born in Hawaii with an Indonesian father who had moved back to Indonesia to live there indefinitely?
Only the Secretary of State (SoS), representing the Executive Branch of the U.S. (POTUS), can terminate a persons U.S. Citizenship. This is done when the SoS signs a Certificate of Loss of Nationality with an official U.S. State Department Seal is pressed into the document.
An Oath of Renunciation is a request for the SoS to issue a Certificate of Loss of Nationality. Issuing a Certificate of Loss of Nationality is optional. The State Department keeps a policy manual for guidance to ensure everyone is treated the same. But, policies change and there are exceptions to every policy statement.
Several copies of the Certificate of Loss of Nationality are retained and issued to various Executive Branch federal agencies; i.e. State Department, FBI, INS, Secret Service, IRS, etc.
It’s the greatest fraud ever perpetrated on the United States.
1. In July 2007, the Democratic Party sent the American Samoan Congressional Representative to Jakarta, along with about $200,000 in cash, to buy up all government records pertaining to BHO2/Barry Soetoro, and all available Soetoro family photographs.
If BHO2 was a U.S. citizen, there was no need to do this act.
2. When L.Col. Lakin was being tried, his lawyer discovered that Barry Soetoro had an immigration file and requested a copy. The request was denied and the file is now in the possesseion of Janet Napilotano of Homeland Security.
Natural born citizens DO NOT have immigration files!
I would hope this information gets some of your brain cells buzzing; it certainly has mine going!
The problem with “Sven”’s SS theory is that Obama’s SSN had already been issued to someone else. That person died in Hawaii, having lived in Connecticut previously.
That a SSN was reused has never happened before, according to the SSA.
The more likely explanation is that Grandma Dunham, with her access to the probate courts in Honolulu as a volunteer worker, lifted the number off of an estate record to give Barry some legitimacy.
That and the Selective Service record signed in 1980 on a 2008 form, along with the layered BC point to a massive fraud being perpetrated on the American people.
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I wouldn’t rely on SvenMagnussen for your evidence. He says many interesting things, but has never documented any of his claims or provided a third party reference.
Whoa. I’d read a lot of the NBC threads before and thought I’d heard everything. My hair is curling after reading this. So many detailed facts. Whoa. This would be the hugest fraud against the American people in history.
Saving this post for the next time a Birther asks me “Who is claiming that there’s a conspiracy?”