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Certifigate : Donald Trump now casts even more doubt on Obama
WND ^ | DECEMBER 5, 2011 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 12/06/2011 12:01:25 AM PST by RobinMasters

The mainstream media are "protecting" Barack Obama's "unconstitutional" tenure in the White House, refusing to investigate allegations that he fails to meet the Constitution's requirement that a president be a "natural born citizen," according to flamboyant billionaire Donald Trump.

In a conference call today with reporters, WND asked Trump why, if he believes defeating Obama is so significant in 2012, doesn't he use his influence to mount a formal investigation into Obama's eligibility.

There have been allegations since long before Obama's election in 2008 that he is not a "natural-born citizen," a requirement imposed on no other official.

Obama's critics believe that at the time the Constitution was written, the Founders understood "natural-born citizen" to mean the offspring of two citizens.

Obama has claimed he was born in Hawaii, but birth documentation he's released has been judged by a number of document, imaging and graphics experts to be fake.

Others believe he would fail to qualify no matter his place of birth, because his father, Barack Obama Sr., was a Kenyan subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of Obama Jr.'s birth. They allege the Founders precluded dual citizens by specifically demanding a "natural-born citizen."

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bc; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; noaccountability; notransparency; obama; patriottrump; trump; undocumentedobama
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To: SatinDoll

Whoa. I’d read a lot of the NBC threads before and thought I’d heard everything. My hair is curling after reading this. So many detailed facts. Whoa. This would be the hugest fraud against the American people in history.


43 posted on 12/06/2011 7:39:30 AM PST by Yaelle (I)
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To: F15Eagle
Here are some interesting sites:

http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?page_id=284

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2801934/posts

http://octaman.com/comments/MalcolmO.html

http://www.thecomingattack.com/russian-official-obama-is-a-communist-kgb-agent/

http://terribletruth.wordpress.com/2011/11/02/bari%e2%80%b2-barry-barack/

I don't necessarily endorse or believe the information in these sites, but they do provide interesting food for thought. They are about as provable as Obama’s published nativity story.

44 posted on 12/06/2011 7:49:19 AM PST by A. Patriot (Have we lost our Republic? Do the majority of Americans care?)
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To: F15Eagle

Probably tossed it in the casket before he lit her up.


46 posted on 12/06/2011 8:07:20 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: SatinDoll

I looked through an entire page of posts. With the exception of a few pictures, nothing was documented with a hyper link or some other form of reference.

Some posts were incredibly detailed and were obvious cut and pastes, but many were not. He has made many provocative, seemingly authoritative statements, but has almost never, within the context of his posts, provided references.

I would like to believe what he says, but anyone can post bold statements with out reference. In addition, I have a fairly broad knowledge of the subject area, and many things that he posts cannot be found in any of the well-known available sources.

Caveat emptor


47 posted on 12/06/2011 8:19:21 AM PST by Fractal Trader
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To: Fractal Trader

There at one time existed online a radio interview, done in Chicago before BHO2 bcame a US Senator, in which BHO2 said he was born in Kenya. That recording vanished.

Lot’s of things concerning BHO2’s past have disappeared. That doesn’t mean it didn’t exist in the past, and since his time in the White House, we should expect that interference in the existing records, too, has been extensive.


49 posted on 12/06/2011 8:39:55 AM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: F15Eagle
bet that was an interesting bc at granny’s which we will never see - probably destroyed that very week

It was a rather hasty trip "O" took to see his dying grandmother.

50 posted on 12/06/2011 8:55:06 AM PST by A. Patriot (Have we lost our Republic? Do the majority of Americans care?)
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To: F15Eagle

I forgot she had broken her hip. Strange if she was at home. Usually several weeks in a hospital, then 2 to 3 months in a swing bed at a nursing home for rehab. Then usually cannot return home to live unassisted. Also, is a broken hip usually fatal? I don’t think so.


52 posted on 12/06/2011 9:16:56 AM PST by A. Patriot (Have we lost our Republic? Do the majority of Americans care?)
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To: RobinMasters; LucyT; circumbendibus; GregNH; Fractal Trader
“In a conference call today with reporters, WND asked Trump why, if he believes defeating Obama is so significant in 2012, doesn't he use his influence to mount a formal investigation into Obama’s eligibility.”

Timing is everything. The legal ground must be prepared to break through the MSM protection that Trump calls out in this interview and the civil legal defenses. My hopes are on the release of Joe Arpaio’s impending posse report to break the logjam leading to criminal indictments for document forgery.

The Obama legal team has been very careful to put layers “fall-guy” sacrificial lambs between Obama and HIS OWN BC so that any forgery cannot be blamed directly on him. But just as Obama’s HI short form defense strategy failed spectacularly forcing his to come up with a forgery, so can the pdf LFBC strategy fail...if Trump, Arpaio and a GOP candidate attack the LFBC at the right moment.

The most likely GOP candidate to go off the reservation and attack Obama’s BC is Perry, who has nothing to lose and was brave enough to invite an endorsement by Arpaio in spite of Arpaio’s public declarations that his posse has found something “shocking” about Obama’s eligibility.

Gingrich has also been surprisingly chummy with Trump, given Trump's public declarations that Obama's BC is likely forged. Gingrich is a notorious bomb-thrower who knows the Constitution. Just being seen in the same room with "birther" Trump has set Rove's hair on fire...and Chris Matthews,' too!

55 posted on 12/06/2011 9:36:52 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: RobinMasters; LucyT; circumbendibus; GregNH; Fractal Trader; WhizCodger
“In a conference call today with reporters, WND asked Trump why, if he believes defeating Obama is so significant in 2012, doesn't he use his influence to mount a formal investigation into Obama’s eligibility.”

Timing is everything. The legal ground must be prepared to break through the MSM protection that Trump calls out in this interview and the civil legal defenses. My hopes are on the release of Joe Arpaio’s impending posse report to break the logjam leading to criminal indictments for document forgery.

The Obama legal team has been very careful to put layers “fall-guy” sacrificial lambs between Obama and HIS OWN BC so that any forgery cannot be blamed directly on him. But just as Obama’s HI short form defense strategy failed spectacularly forcing his to come up with a forgery, so can the pdf LFBC strategy fail...if Trump, Arpaio and a GOP candidate attack the LFBC at the right moment.

The most likely GOP candidate to go off the reservation and attack Obama’s BC is Perry, who has nothing to lose and was brave enough to invite an endorsement by Arpaio in spite of Arpaio’s public declarations that his posse has found something “shocking” about Obama’s eligibility.

Gingrich has also been surprisingly chummy with Trump, given Trump's public declarations that Obama's BC is likely forged. Gingrich is a notorious bomb-thrower who knows the Constitution. Just being seen in the same room with "birther" Trump has set Rove's hair on fire...and Chris Matthews,' too!

56 posted on 12/06/2011 9:36:52 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: A. Patriot

Another site with a Malcolm X connection:

http://www.myspace.com/exposingobama2009/blog/544727626


57 posted on 12/06/2011 9:42:55 AM PST by A. Patriot (Have we lost our Republic? Do the majority of Americans care?)
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To: A. Patriot

It gets even better:

http://www.colony14.net/id583.html

This scenario makes more sense than anything I have read.


58 posted on 12/06/2011 10:13:15 AM PST by A. Patriot (Have we lost our Republic? Do the majority of Americans care?)
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To: A. Patriot
is a broken hip usually fatal?

It is if the Chicago Thugocracy says it is.

59 posted on 12/06/2011 10:33:00 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Notary Sojac

“So the issue is about the definition of a “natural born citizen”.”

We know what the definition of “natural Born Citizen” is. We don’t know what it is not.


60 posted on 12/06/2011 10:33:28 AM PST by Larry - Moe and Curly (Loose lips sink ships.)
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