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To: berdie

“So if an ectopic pregnancy presents..what is the answer?

The pregnancy is doomed when an ectopic pregnancy occurs.

(I don’t even think that is considered an abortion in that case.)


57 posted on 12/04/2011 9:51:28 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Sun

“The pregnancy is doomed when an ectopic pregnancy occurs.”

Not always.

http://www.personhoodinitiative.com/ectopic-personhood.html

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62 posted on 12/04/2011 10:01:03 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Equal protection is not optional.)
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To: Sun

The key is the type of treatment.

If the treatment is to remove the infected Fallopian Tube and a secondary effect is the death of the unborn child the treatment is ethical.

An abortion or treatment that directly targets the baby is never ethical.


159 posted on 12/05/2011 9:42:24 AM PST by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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