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To: GourmetDan
You certainly seem determined to sacrifice zygotes that you define as dead. What’s up with that?

What's up is that I think you have not followed my comments in this discussion. I've clearly indicated that I'm speaking of zygotes that have passed beyond viability. They are eventually sloughed off in the regular menstrual cycle. That's just a biological fact.

Now, "what's up" is a discussion. In the discussion, I have pre-stated my position that life begins at conception. However, if we enter into a discussion on implanted versus non-implanted zygotes, then the discussion has to be able to address all of the associated facts.

Your concern that some legalistic mind would try to interpret "unimplanted" as meaning both "pre-implanted" and "past the possibility of implantation" is a valid concern in my mind. It needs to be addressed.

If we don't have the open discussion, then we leave it to our kids and friends and co-believers to have the discussion framed by others who don't share our beliefs.

Personally, I don't like that idea.

Nor do I like the notion that just because one is discussing a subject that they are advocating anything other than what they specifically say they are advocating.

It makes it impossible to have a discussion.

Does that mean I can't discuss the realities of drugs with kids without coming across as an advocate of drug abuse?

196 posted on 12/06/2011 6:01:59 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: xzins
"What's up is that I think you have not followed my comments in this discussion."

Well, what I think is up is that you are making a distinction without a difference as an argument for using test-tube zygotes for experiments and treatments.

"I've clearly indicated that I'm speaking of zygotes that have passed beyond viability. They are eventually sloughed off in the regular menstrual cycle."

Who in the world is capturing post-viable zygotes sloughed off in the regular menstrual cycle?

"Does that mean I can't discuss the realities of drugs with kids without coming across as an advocate of drug abuse?"

Given how you've been doing w/ zygotes, I would say no you can't.

197 posted on 12/06/2011 6:29:59 AM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: xzins
"What's up is that I think you have not followed my comments in this discussion."

Well, what I think is up is that you are making a distinction without a difference as an argument for using test-tube zygotes for experiments and treatments.

"I've clearly indicated that I'm speaking of zygotes that have passed beyond viability. They are eventually sloughed off in the regular menstrual cycle."

Who in the world is capturing post-viable zygotes sloughed off in the regular menstrual cycle?

"Does that mean I can't discuss the realities of drugs with kids without coming across as an advocate of drug abuse?"

Given how you've been doing w/ zygotes, I would say no you can't.

198 posted on 12/06/2011 6:30:52 AM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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