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To: T. P. Pole; Colofornian

I am intrigued by that answer.
The people on FR have posted hundreds of links to lds sites that are current online newspapers, lds.org, and the multitude of other lds owned and operated sites, plus the dozens of sites that have been encouraged by SLC lds to “counter” anti- mormonISM YET you (lds) members disregard this information as attacks on mormons and no not see them as exposing mormnISM.
I for one would like to see mormons willing to acknowledge that mormonISM is not Christianity. I would provide links to recent statements and older statements by lds leaders stating just that but we have already established you disregard their words.
Returning to the theme of the orginal post. Romney is a liberal and that is the reason I will not vote for him - period. Politically he is no different that BHO.


252 posted on 12/05/2011 6:23:17 AM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: svcw
Romney is a liberal and that is the reason I will not vote for him - period. Politically he is no different that BHO.

I look at it as a scale from 1 to 10, with 1 being liberal and 10 being conservative. Or really, 1 being "government is the solution to everything" and 10 being "government is the solution to nothing." On this scale I place the founding fathers around a 9 (since they felt that there was some role for central government, albeit a very small and limited one). I would consider myself somewhere near that same 9, but I have some odd libertarian tendancies mixed in.

Going back and trying to score, I think that Reagan was about an 8, Bush1 was about a 5, Clinton was about a 4, Bush2 about a 6. Obama is about as close to a 1 as we have seen in decades.

I think Palin is about 7 or 8, Cain the same. Gingrich about a 7. Perry seems to be about a 6 or 7. Not really sure where Paul fits in. He seems a 1 in some things and an 11 in others. Bachmann seems to be about a 7. Santorum about a 7. Huntsman about a 5 or 6. On this scale I think Romney is about a 4 or 5.

When I vote I look at this scale and add to it the ability to govern. So while Bachmann is about a 7, she gets no boost in leadership ability. A former governor or business leader gets more boost than a senator or representative. This boost, however, tends to only break ties, not to move someone from a lower score to a higher one. Whoever is left gets scored, and I vote for the one with the highest score.

Which is why I voted for Keyes in the 2008 primary. At the moment I am tending to Gingrich (having recently lost Cain).

But come the presidential, I would do the same, and a liberal-4 Ronmey beats a liberal-1 Obama.

No way, no how for the primary. But plugged nose in the final. Much like the McCain-4 last time.

267 posted on 12/05/2011 7:22:38 AM PST by T. P. Pole
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