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To: TBBT
Heard the maha rushie himself say many years ago - it is one thing to offer someone mercy, grace, forgiveness - but — but they still have to deal with the consequences of their crime or sin — and in this case the consequences for newt are that his past behaviors now disqualify him for this high office.
6 posted on 12/02/2011 5:29:38 PM PST by Esther Ruth
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To: Esther Ruth
. . . in this case the consequences for newt are that his past behaviors now disqualify him for this high office.

At least from my perspective, forgiveness is God's decision. It's my place to decide whether to trust him with the country God has given us. He has in the past been a shocking slimeball morally, and that makes me less willing to trust him, both personally and professionally. He has, however, claimed to have found God and reformed. I am at least willing to consider the possibility that he is sincere. He is VERY far from my first choice, even among those running, but having sinned (egregiously) a decade ago is not completely disqualifying - if his repentance is real. We have to judge him by his actions over the past few years, and I'm keeping an open mind on that question. If God is willing to forgive him, who am I to hold a grudge in an area that does not directly relate to his sins?

9 posted on 12/02/2011 5:38:58 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Esther Ruth
Heard the maha rushie himself say many years ago - it is one thing to offer someone mercy, grace, forgiveness - but — but they still have to deal with the consequences of their crime or sin — and in this case the consequences for newt are that his past behaviors now disqualify him for this high office.

So an individual must continue to pay for a sin for all eternity? That's what forgiveness and redemption means? And who is man to extract such a sentence? What about second chances? If you've changed your life, you should still be brought down by past sins? We are not talking about criminal penalties here...
10 posted on 12/02/2011 5:40:27 PM PST by TBBT
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To: Esther Ruth

in this case the consequences for newt are that his past behaviors now disqualify him for this high office.


I disagree. I’m not going to let this nation be destroyed in a search for perfection in areas that are not pertinent to the job.

Newt is the only one who can beat Romney.

And he can beat Obama.

And his sinc


11 posted on 12/02/2011 5:43:47 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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