[cranked]

Besides the FACT that the US K-12 system has become an expensive/costly assembly line, I am sure that the implimentation of ‘teaching to test’ or the fact that unionized teachers and tenure have had absolutely nothing to do with our education system being so fraked huh, Dr. Robinson?

I have college freshman students, year after year, who have no clue how to write a sentence let alone a paragraph and fail miserably at understanding concepts that they should have had or did have in middle or high school. Care to explain that one to me, as well as many of my university collegues throughout the US? =.=

[1010RD]

Well, for decades we’ve known what doesn’t work, but politicians and their political allies keep the system in place because it pays...them.

In Illinois we’ve got teacher ‘certifications’. So someone with a decade of experience in their craft couldn’t teach it to anyone, until they get a teaching certificate. How much more stupid can the system get?

[Not a 60s Hippy]

http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

Communist Goals (1963)
Congressional Record—Appendix, pp. A34-A35

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

I went to school BEFORE TEACHER UNIONS.

[af_vet_rr]

Besides the FACT that the US K-12 system has become an expensive/costly assembly line, I am sure that the implimentation of ‘teaching to test’

Get rid of the federal control/influence (No Child Left Behind) and lower the amount of state control and you'll move away from teaching to the test.

Public education used to work just fine - it helped us put men on the moon and win world wars.

Of course, back then, the feds weren't as involved, kids weren't in this continual cycle of testing, and schools didn't feel pressured keep on advancing kids that should have been flunked.

[RipSawyer]

I am a graduate of the South Carolina public school system, class of 1960. I live about fifty five miles from the school I attended. We have a university here and I have spoken to recent graduates of that university who majored in history. I was amazed to learn that they don’t know the history that I was required to learn in the first seven years. I am not exaggerating at all. If a university graduate cannot pass the test he would have had to pass to ENTER HIGH SCHOOL in my era and I am referring to a test on his MAJOR subject then he does not even have an eighth grade education in reality. What are they doing in class?