U.S. Congress enacts laws to hold civilians under indefinite military detention without trial

Asian Tribune ^ | December 1st 2011 | Daya Gamage

[ExTexasRedhead]

In my opinion, Never Again is ringing frightfully HOLLOW thanks to the Regime and the US Congress! Severe shortage of gonads in DC, IMO.

DeathPanels designed to be Holocaust II????

[Lazamataz]

The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.

Aye, and there's the rub.

The bill does not REQUIRE the detention and the removal of all Constitutional Rights of American Citizens. It should say PERMIT.

As written, it permits but does not require.

Not cool.

[algernonpj]

... Has Congress lost its mind?

The majority of congress has been bought and paid for. We now have the best government global corporations and finance can buy.

IMHO free enterprise and capitalism have been replaced by crony capitalism / corporatism / fascism.

The enemy within has been very successful in creating a story for the ‘left’ about economic, social, educational, and environmental ‘justice’, sustainability, concensus and a story for the ‘right’ about ‘free trade’, 'comparative advantage', free movement of goods and natural persons, and 'profits uber alles' with no reference to patriotism or morality. Both stories lead to the same place - destruction of the American economy, security, traditional culture, values and its pesky middle class under the tyranny of global communism.

Yuri Bezmenov was correct/

For those bandwidth challenged read Yuri here

[algernonpj]

You can read Yuri here

[arthurus]

And it is Tea Party Republicans who did this.

[rmlew]

I would suggest that you read Andrew c McCarthy's response to the hyperbole.

Significantly, though, combat operations — which, of course, include the capture and disposition of enemy combatants — are not authorized indiscriminately against just anyone. Under the AUMF and McCain-Levin, detention and trial under the laws of war are narrowly prescribed only for those fighting with or aiding and abetting the enemy. And we are not talking about any prospective enemy that happens to pop into the head of President Obama or any future president, such as an administration’s political detractors. To be covered under McCain-Levin, a person must have either participated in the 9/11 attacks or have been involved in hostilities against the U.S. on behalf of “al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces.”

As I’ve argued before, it is high time for Congress to amend the AUMF so that other factions known to be part of the enemy — e.g., the Haqqani network, the Pakistani Taliban, al-Qaeda’s arguably new franchises in Iraq, Yemen, and elsewhere — are expressly included as part of the enemy. It is regrettable that McCain-Levin does not take this step; doing so would have marked a meaningful improvement on the AUMF.

Andrew Napolitano’s Mistake The McCain-Levin amendment does not authorize civil-liberties violations.

[Cardhu]

i>I’m not sure how much clearer that needs to be.

Nice exception in the next paragraph which will infiltrate every reassurance, …except to the extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States.

And then Senator Levin happily quotes the Supreme court -- "There is no bar to this nation holding one of it citizen as an enemy combatant"

What Constitution, you could drive an 18 wheeler though that gobbledygook.

Have faith believe the government.

[Forgotten Amendments]

McCarthy, the police state Rudy groupie, discredits the whole piece with his rehash of 9/11. That's the “So’s your old man!” argument and is pure emotionalism. Surprised he didn't mention “The children!” and throw in a few “American Exceptionalism”s to silence all critics.

McCarthy and the remnants of NR are worthless hacks.

[rmlew]

Tu Qoque is a fallacy, not an arguement.

What exactly did he write that is incorrect?

[Forgotten Amendments]

Most of the NRO comments put it a lot better than I can.

[Lazamataz]

Well, I will look this over.

I would never be happier, to be wrong.

[tutstar]

Good thing U weren’t around to cheer on George Washington . We might not b on fr right now.

[TigersEye]

I wish you were wrong but wishing doesn’t seem to fill up my hand.

[KantianBurke]

Any freeper who cheers this kind of nonsense on is a fool and a disgrace.

[Impy]

More than half of congress deserves to be held indefinitely themselves. And I have some charges, the violent rape of the constitution for one.

[sergeantdave]

“What good can a Handgun do against a satellite commanded drone with a Hellfire missile? 2nd Div Vet, you’re fighting the last century’s guerrilla war. That’s over with.”

You’re an interesting piece of work, sam_paine.

What good can a commanded drone with a Hellfire missle accomplish when the operator is holding his brains in his lap?

I’ll leave you to your ill-conceived superman fantasy.

[elkfersupper]

“What good can a Handgun do against a satellite commanded drone with a Hellfire missile? 2nd Div Vet, you’re fighting the last century’s guerrilla war. That’s over with.”

That's the choice we have.

Don't disparage it.

[sergeantdave]

“Don’t disparage it.”

Not sure what you mean, FRiend, but you can bet that I’m 110% on your side.

BCNU

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

Might as well dig up Thomas Woodrow Wilson to sign this one into law.

PING!