Posted on 11/29/2011 5:51:20 PM PST by Fred
Too much speculation is never going to resolve one issue.
Let's see, you say being a newby or oldie means nothing, then in the next sentence go on to tell us that you likely have more experience than me, which I will gladly, on your cue, take to mean NOTHING. Being an 'oldie' here means something because the longer one is here the less likely there is an axe to grind as the posting history will tell what kind of person they are, quickly.
Bottom line is, I could care if you've drawn breath for 5 or 105 years. Existing on this earth gives your opinions no weight than anyone else if you don't know a damn thing about what you speak.
From a personal attack standpoint your “showed you ass” as they say. Some of Cain supporters would do him a better service to quit the “hot pants groupie” act and remember our previous Conservative Morality.
There no 'showing of my ass' here, just you being an a-hole trying to push these women's slander as proof, when no proof as yet has been shown. Calling a spade a spade isn't groupie behavior, it's fact.
Not one poster on FR, you nor I, have any facts regarding the original allegations or the facts on this most recent alleged dalliance, its 100% conjecture.
No, YOUR statements are 100% conjecture. What I stated to you is fact - none of these women have provided credible evidence of what happened, two of them won't even give their names. Quit trying to shade this as if I've made statements that were never made.
What is evident is his lawyer was very careful with the words in his statements and that is very telling. Lawyers, especially big shot ones, are wordsmiths and do not utter a single word off the cuff. Unless we are also lawyers, we have no real way to know what he “actually” meant on the first 4 or the 13 year affair, reminiscent of “what the meaning of IS is”.
Ms. White's lawyers have offered up just as much wordsmithing, and Ms. White has obviously been very well coached, not only by what she says but by what she does NOT say. She leaves alot to speculate about, just like the other ones did, but no proof, which she seems to back away from. Just like the others did, which smells like an orchestrated shadow game.
It is 1000% OK for Cain followers to stick with him and if he comes out of all this on top, I will be one of the first to cheer for him, but what I know of human nature and of similar “opportunity” situations with the ladies, I do think there is more than anyone who actually knows the facts is admitting.
Closing your eyes and whistling past the graveyard is really not good for you or for Cain.
Whistling past what graveyard? THERE IS NO PROOF. This is the SIXTH woman to come out and make all sorts of noise, but in the end there's not 'there there'. When there is something there and we all choose to ignore it, then you have a point. It sounds to me like you've come to a predetermined conclusion and tried to make it look like you were forced into it by Cain's actions, then come onto this forum to try and persuade others to do the same.
Quit wasting our time with crap till you have something.
Look, I am by no means against Cain. I do not care for the way he, his campaign staff and his hotshot lawyer have conducted the klintoon style defense. If Cain's supporters have no problem with that, then that is your prerogative.
My primary contention is that whether or not any of these multiple allegations prove out, he is no longer as likely to win the nomination, to which many polls indicate. But if he does, I will wholeheartedly support him against nobama.
“Look, I am by no means against Cain. I do not care for the way he,....”
Where’s the “Blue Dress”? What did the Text Messages “say”. Where’s the video? So far nothing.
I reinforce your points only in your deluded mind.
I have laid out the facts as simple as they can be: every single one of the accusers against Cain are seriously flawed. Of the ones that will even give their names and/or what actually happened, they have serious cracks in their credibility. That is not conjecture or wishful thinking - that is fact.
Your primary contention since entering this thread seems to be running with fabrications from grifter sleazebag women and acting as if they are true in order to get others to doubt and possibly switch to some other candidate, and paint everyone who resists you as some kind of kool-aid drinking true believer.
Nice try, no cigar. I’ve been in politics too long to get fooled by provocateur amateur hour.
Thanks! I have a buddy who lives on a few hours sleep and always says ‘I’ll sleep when I’m dead’. Thought of him saying that one day and it popped into my mind ‘and vote Democrat too’ - and a tagline was born.
It’s amazing sometimes to sit back and watch how people work the threads. The noobs are the best though because they rarely even have half the skill they think they do. You’d think they’d realize that those of us who have been here 10+ years have been thru a few rodeos.
RIGHT!!! s/
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