Posted on 11/25/2011 1:10:50 PM PST by lbryce
Edited on 11/25/2011 2:09:57 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]
This is going to be another one of those threads where 75% of the posters never bother to read the comments of the 25% who know what the heck they’re talking about.
>>Hawker Beechcraft was eliminated in favor of a Brazilian manufacturer? Wow. And the Keystone pipeline was nixed, meanwhile Obama bankrolls Brazilian explorations and says "we will be your best customer". Goodbye North Dakota and Kansas, hello Rio. Obama has a funny way of focusing on jobs in the US. From Wikipedia... Hawker Beechcraft Corporation (of Kansas) is an aerospace manufacturing company that builds the Beechcraft and Hawker business jet lines of aircraft. But I'm sure its all a coincidence... Its a coincidence that Soros was invested in Brazilian Petrobras at a time when we shut down our Gulf drilling and those oil drilling rigs needed to go elsewhere. BTW, I don't believe in coincidences. There are 46 used Hawker aircraft for sale on THIS page alone. It seems like the US could have somehow found 20 'light air support' planes for Afghanistan, short of funding Brazil with US tax dollars and shifting our war-readiness manufacturing to foreign lands. I think this IS also partly a punishment for RED states, (along with his stopping the Keystone pipeline decision). Just look at the dotted blue line in THIS MAP, and note which states the expansion of that existing pipeline will serve most. Illinois already gets the lion's share of the Canadian oil sands crude, so it now has an economic advantage over other states in the region. The blue dotted line expansion of the pipeline will serve red states more than blue, and he KNOWS it. |
Excellent restatement of facts and good opinion. Makes a lot of sense.
WOW!
Impressive, most impressive.
And here I thought I was doing God's work with my feeble little tag line.
Maybe they weren’t unionized enough? /sarc
Thanks, its a work in progress...
I like your homepage too.
FUE
Its a coincidence that Soros is invested in Brazilian Embraer (the only other bidder on that contract)He's not.
He's invested in Harbin-Embraer, that's Chinese Embraer, a Chinese firm set to to build Embraer EMB-145 Regional Jests, In China.
Its a coincidence that the American contract for these 20 "LIGHT AIR SUPPORT" planes was written with hurried 'timeline' rules that force out American competition.The US Navy has wanted these aircraft for OPERATIONS in Afghanistan for 2½ years. It was the Congresscritters who turned it into a makework project for their state. (The Navy progam was known as Imminent Fury - I guess the big word was too hard for the congresscritters to understand)
There are 46 used Hawker aircraft for sale on THIS page aloneNow you've achieved an OWSer level stupidity
Those aircraft are Hawker 800s: executive jets
What the military wanted was a light bomb truck
A-29 Super Tucano: In production, In Service, In Combat
What the congresscritters are pushing is
Hawker Beechcraft AT-6B: Brochureware, in development
And it's not as good a design as the A-29. For one thing, it's shorter. Not a problem in flying training. But hang stuff beneath the wings, and directional instability problems mainfest
Yes, its all pure coincidence...
Ostrich, I don't get many know-it-all hecklers. They are almost all banned. But thank you for your apparent service. Feel free to nitpick with HotAir.com and others who say Soros is heavily invested in a subsidiary of Embraer... Air Force bounces US manufacturer for Brazilian competitor « Hot Airhotair.com/.../air-force-bounces-us-manufacturer-for-brazilian-comp...Cached
3 days ago George Soros has a major shareholding in Harbin-Embraer, the Chinese subsidiary of Embraer. Soros is also a major share holder of ...In fact, the HotAir artice sheds MORE light on this topic... Oddly enough, Embraer has been in the news lately. Less than three weeks ago, the Brazilian airplane builder announced that the SEC had begun a probe for corruption...Corruption? I am SHOCKED that someone dealing with Obama might be accused of corruption! The going rate for kickbacks on contracts in Illinois used to be 5%. I'd bet Brazil offered even better than that, while Beechcraft probably offered Zero zero. It seems that to you, your 'stupidly' friend can do no wrong. A jet is a jet as far as the Afghans are concerned. Any of them can be retro-fitted with bombs or missles, and Afghans are good at 'retrofitting stuff'. And the US Navy already has its own jets. I 'cc'ed almost everyone on this thread previously, plus others I thought might be interested, but I tried to not address or 'cc' you because you looked like an argumentative jerk. Now you've removed all doubt. Please do not address me again. Afghanistan is a landlocked country that is about 900 miles from the ocean. The 'Navy' does not 'need' these for Afghanistan. Your pal already single-handedly killed OBL, so 'that' war is almost over. (Now, on with the next one). These jets will be given away as a parting gift, so they hardly have to be state of the art. |
Yes, it is
Thanks FUE.
Maybe it's where he's planning on fleeing.
Google Soros Embraer Harbin and go from there.
Dude...it’s not brochureware.
AT-3 is the third off the line and it’s production representative.
HBC could start building today with a hot assembly line.
How long do you figure it’s going to take the Brazillians and Sierra Nevada to get their act together and start building planes?
This may be considered the first warning.
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