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GOP Smackdown: Gingrich v. Romney (Who of the two will govern more conservatively?)
National Review ^ | 11/23/2011 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 11/25/2011 9:33:49 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Whether the matchup between Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney is the final bout on the GOP primary card is impossible to know. The whole season has been more like professional wrestling than boxing, with weird characters sporting implausible hair appearing out of nowhere to talk smack and explain why they are the greatest in the world. (I’m looking at you in particular, Mr. Trump.)

Still, let’s assume for the moment that it’s a Gingrich-Romney contest.

It’s quite a matchup. Romney has been brutalized for having too little personality, Gingrich for having way, way too much. Romney looks like the picture that comes with the frame. Gingrich looks like he should be ensconced in royal velvet as he gestures at you with a half-eaten turkey leg in one hand and a sloshing goblet of wine in the other. Romney seems terrified of fully committing to any idea. Gingrich speaks as if he just text-messaged with God.

Gingrich would have everyone believe he is the winner of the anti-Romney mantle not merely by default but by hard-won effort and a well-deserved reputation for conservative steadfastness. Many in the media, meanwhile, think that since Gingrich is taking the slot once held by Palin, Bachmann, Cain, and Perry, he is a conservative of similar stripe. And many liberals think that since they hate him so much, he must be really right-wing. (They made the same mistake with Richard Nixon and George W. Bush, both of whom were far less ideologically conservative than their press clippings indicated.)

The reality is more complicated. For starters, it’s not altogether clear that Gingrich is that far to the right of Romney.

Gingrich’s record — political and rhetorical — is so vast and diverse, there’s plenty of evidence to build almost any narrative you want. He’s said some of the most bombastic right-wing things of any mainstream Republican in our lifetimes, but he’s also reached across the aisle more frequently than far-more-liberal Republicans would ever dare.

As House speaker, he cut a deal with President Clinton on the budget. He infamously joined forces with Nancy Pelosi on climate change, with the NAACP on prison reform, and with Al Sharpton on education. He was one of the few movement conservatives to vocally back George W. Bush’s expansion of Medicare, and he continues to support ethanol subsidies with a straight face. And, of course, last April he tore into Paul Ryan’s budget proposal as “right-wing social engineering,” immolating himself in the process.

Gingrich has since retracted and modified his stance on the Ryan plan. And he’s called his pairing with Pelosi one of the stupidest things he’s ever done.

Still, those who dismiss Gingrich as hopelessly unelectable in the general election should at least keep in mind that Gingrich’s apostasies will make it harder to tar him as a cookie-cutter “right-wing extremist.”

The crucial question for most Republicans will be: Who would govern more conservatively? The candidate who answers that question to the satisfaction of the GOP base will likely be the nominee. But that question begs another: What will Congress look like?

If the Republicans take back the Senate and hold the House, you could make the case that Romney is the better man for the job. Given his unpopularity with the base of his own party, he would be on a much shorter leash and be expected to fly Ryan’s flag over the West Wing while making Republican proposals seem more reasonable to the public. He very well might be the technocrat in chief, implementing reforms not necessarily of his own choosing.

Gingrich, meanwhile, is much more of a wild card. It’s no secret he sees himself as a world historical figure, the last of the great statesmen. And part of that self-conception is his idea that statesmen cut grand bargains with the opposition when history calls for it. That’s not necessarily a bad thing, if you know for sure when history calls for it. If the GOP controlled Congress, conservatives would be on constant “Nixon to China” watch with a President Gingrich.

Given the craziness of the season, I’ve been humbled enough to say I have no idea how this will play out. But I will admit, I’m looking forward to the next steel-cage match.

— Jonah Goldberg is editor-at-large of National Review Online and a visiting fellow at the American Enterprise Institute.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gingrich; newt; romney
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To: trebb
Yep - Newt understands consrvatism...

He sure does. He knows how to throw the red meat to conservatives to advance his career while he's sitting on the couch and doing tours with liberals.

41 posted on 11/25/2011 12:38:43 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: SeekAndFind

None of the above. Neither will get my vote.


42 posted on 11/25/2011 12:42:00 PM PST by alice_in_bubbaland ( Obama, President of the Democrats and Joe Biden, VP are the top morons of the DNC.)
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To: lonevoice
Which of the two liberals would govern more conservatively?

This is being setup as a repeat of 2008. Which one in the primaries do we choose: McCain or Romney? That's a tough one. The question they should be asking is which one is less liberal than the other?

How about neither while there's still time?

43 posted on 11/25/2011 12:56:12 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

Gingrich traveled a lot as a youth because his stepfather was in the military. His higher education was in the South. He taught in the South. He represented Georgia in congress, so apparently he was good enough for the folks who live there. He currently lives in Virginia.

“Carpetbagger” is a term used by Democrats against Republicans. Does not apply here.


44 posted on 11/25/2011 1:05:49 PM PST by BigBobber
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To: BigBobber

Leroy was born and lived in Pennsylvania until he became an adult. Probably figured if he was going to live in the South then he better not talk like Ted Kennedy. But every now and then he opens up his big mouth and lets his true self out. He’s a fraud, vote for him if you want but count me out.


45 posted on 11/25/2011 1:10:26 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: LRVision
"There is no question that Gingrich is and would govern as a conservative"

Gingrich has either publicly supported or while in office voted for amnesty, healthcare mandates, global warming legislation, the establishment of the Federal Dept of Education, gun control, and subjugating US sovereignty to supranational bureaucracies

. He is and has always been a progressive in drag. If it's down to Gingrich, Romney, or Obama, I vote NOTA.
46 posted on 11/25/2011 2:06:57 PM PST by CowboyJay (Generic Republican - 2012. He's the only 'electable' candidate.)
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To: BigBobber

Spot on post!

Saves me the trouble.


47 posted on 11/25/2011 2:12:48 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: CowboyJay
He is and has always been a progressive in drag.

Exactly right and that record is there for anyone to see.

48 posted on 11/25/2011 3:02:24 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: SeekAndFind
Romney looks like the picture that comes with the frame. Gingrich looks like he should be ensconced in royal velvet as he gestures at you with a half-eaten turkey leg in one hand and a sloshing goblet of wine in the other. Romney seems terrified of fully committing to any idea. Gingrich speaks as if he just text-messaged with God.

That's very funny!

49 posted on 11/25/2011 4:22:01 PM PST by Huck (LIBERTY is the object.)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

Please don’t slander Pennsylvanians by saying we talk like Ted Kennedy. Pennsylvania now has a Republican governor and Republicans control both the House and Senate. Obama is highly unpopular here. Remember, it was western Pennsylvanians whom Obama was referring to when he accused us of clinging to our guns and religion and fearing those who are different from us.


50 posted on 11/25/2011 6:11:32 PM PST by WestSylvanian
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To: WestSylvanian

Santorum is from Pennsylvania isn’t he? I’d vote for him if he got nominated. I’ve been in the Northeast all my life and I know a Northeastern liberal when I see one, it doesn’t matter which one it is. But there are a few good conservatives around, and you are right Pennsylvania has probably the majority of them these days.


51 posted on 11/25/2011 6:19:43 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: SeekAndFind

Give me Cain or Bachmann.


52 posted on 11/25/2011 7:24:29 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: SeekAndFind

” - - - Who would govern more conservatively? “

The one who can conserve the most of what is left of America. It used to be the best Country in the World - - - .


53 posted on 11/25/2011 7:34:09 PM PST by Graewoulf ( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.)
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To: federal__reserve

BUMP!


54 posted on 11/28/2011 4:26:38 PM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: hinckley buzzard
We'll see. I think Gingrich will tank in two weeks, and unfortunately, if Herman Cain won't sue the fraudulent accusers for defamation...he is appearing doomed.

Nobody has any such attacks, yet, on Bachmann. My guess that they will try to claim, as the communists have for the last 12 years...that she is "crazy" and will see if they can bribe some of her former staffers to attack her.

As noted by Ann Coulter: That kind of smear campaign seems to be the main approach of Dennis Axelrod.

55 posted on 11/28/2011 4:30:16 PM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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