Hey, it's an open forum. It's not often that a Mormon tosses three "prophets" (Kimball, Joseph Fielding Smith, Lorenzo Snow) under the bus in a few posts...but you've managed. Therefore, I should sell tickets.
I could make it a new game show: "Prophet Bus-Tossing"
Please don't bother trying to continually ping me...
Hey, in case you haven't noticed, a silent "ping" is easier to ignore than a Mormon mishie ringing away at your doorbell. (Or is it Mormon doorbell proselytism for me but not a response ping for thee kind of lopsided mentality?)
ALL: Lurkers. Mormons. Ex Mormons. Those in the true Christ. Interested parties, all. Did you all note the very verse -- and context of that verse -- that Ripliancum stuck in the middle of his foray into the Bible?
Here, let me cite it:
Philip. 2:9 God also hath highly exalted him [Ripliancum]
Do you all realize Rip's implication here?
Since in Mormonism, "exaltation" = becoming a god,
and since this verse is talking about none other than Jesus Christ,
Rip is claiming here that the Almighty Everlasting Son of God from eternity past became a god.
[And of course, in Mormonism, that narrative pops up post-Satan's arrival on the scene]
Rip is saying that post-Satan, Jesus got the "god job." (And, you, too, just like Jesus, can get the Mormon god job).
ALL: So. If you want to understand the Mormon evolution of a spirit -- namely who they call the Mormon Jesus -- here it is: From...
...primordial eternal spirit goo (Lds D&C 93:29,33)...
...to you-like (minus a body that is), Satan's older bro...
...then to an angelic-like messenger (Jehovah of the Old Testament)...
...then an embodied man...
...and only then awarded godhood!
This "jesus" is foreign to the Bible. The Messiah of the Bible shared the glory with the Father in the beginning (John 17:5). This Jesus is THE Son of God, not just a son of God. And THE Son of God did not consider equality with His Father something he couldn't let go of while becoming a man (see the rest of Philippians 2 that Ripliancum ripped out of context). Phil. 2 makes it clear He was already divine, not just a "wannabe" God like Dear Ole Dad.
This is why you have to watch sly, distortion-minded Mormons. They'll rip a passage out of context. Here's Phil. 2:6-7 showing Jesus was already a being who was "in very nature God" -- and yet willingly yielded that acknowledgement as God -- "equality with God" -- as something He had to grasp. He could take the absolute humble route:
6 Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; 7 rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness.
The True Jesus Christ: Savior, not a Saved Being
In contrast, the Mormon christ is but a "saved being"--a mere creature like dear ole Dad: "Christ is a saved being” (lds apostle McConkie, Doctrinal New Testament Commentary, Vol. 3, p 257)
“Modern revelation speaks of our Lord as he that ‘ascended up on high, as also he descended below all things, in that he comprehended all things, that he might be in all and through all things, the light of truth‘ (D&C 88:6). Christ's rise to the throne of exaltation was preceded by his descent below all things. Only by submitting to the powers of demons and death and hell could he, in the resurrection, serve as our exemplar of a saved being...” (McConkie and Millet, Doctrinal Commentary on the Book of Mormon, vol. 1, p. 234) (Please also see McConkie, Doctrinal New Testament Commentary, Vol. 3, p. 238 where he said the Mormon "jesus" "Needs salvation...Came to earth to work out His own salvation”)
There ya go. Ripliacum's Jesus needed to be "saved." Needed to become a god.
Blasphemy and heresy! All in one fell Joseph Smith swoop!
Seriously, don’t you ever stop? Did some Mormon hurt you or your family that you hold such bitter animosity for members of my faith?
Lets peel back the onion layer further Colofornian. Somehow Jesus must have LOST that godhood, because it is mormon doctrine that Jesus was the God named Jehovah in the OT. Somehow Jesus became a god then WITHOUT his earthly trial OR receiving his body of flesh and bone - Something that the mormon heavenly father - Elohiem - was unable to accomplish in his progression from man to god.
Let us not forget the mormon god "Holy Ghost" who is stuck without a body OR a name.
Seems like our apologist is hiding more of the confused and distorted theology of mormonism than one could imagine.
So Jesus needed to be "saved" - who died for Jesus then? Inquiring minds want to know.