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Video: Russia’s Third Stealth Jet Flies
DefenseTech ^ | November 22, 2011 | Staff

Posted on 11/23/2011 10:28:00 AM PST by lbryce

For more Thanksgiving week entertainment, check out this video of Russia’s third stealth fighter making one of its very first flights. The video below shows the third Sukhoi T-50 PAK FA flying recently, nearly two years after the very first T-50 made its first flight. Remember, Russia is hoping to get the jet, designed to be a less stealthy but more maneuverable competitor to the F-22 Raptor, into service by the middle of the decade. India has already signed off to build about 200 of the jets under license. South Korea and even Venezuela are reportedly interested in the jet, too.

Remember that the second PAK FA suffered an engine flame-out at the Moscow air show earlier this year (that’s the second jet shown above). That came after the jet was grounded for months following its initial flights. It’s going to be interesting to see how fast Sukhoi can get the stealth jet to the international market — and if it does, how much of a competitor to the Lockheed Martin F-35 Joint Strike Fighter will it prove to be?

A larger screen video is available by going directly to the Russian site.
http://www.vesti.ru/videos?vid=377869



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: russia; stealthfighter; vtol
The Russian stealth fighter has VTOL capability as demonstrated in the video.
1 posted on 11/23/2011 10:28:04 AM PST by lbryce
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To: lbryce

Have the democrats sold or given the russians and chinese the plans for F-22 YET!....

Nevermind... I just read the article.. amazing the similarities..


2 posted on 11/23/2011 10:32:35 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: lbryce

don’t know enough about the capabilities of this plane and you may be right however the photo looks like it could also be a climb out.


3 posted on 11/23/2011 10:50:51 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: hosepipe

No, sending plans is too hard, obastard shut down the line and shipped them all the tooling they need. Lockheed got their silver and we got the shaft.


4 posted on 11/23/2011 10:55:22 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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To: lbryce

Highly doubtful.


5 posted on 11/23/2011 10:57:01 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: TalonDJ

Raptorski?


6 posted on 11/23/2011 11:01:47 AM PST by newnhdad
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To: newnhdad
Raptorski?

Large radar and heat signature-orski.
7 posted on 11/23/2011 11:06:23 AM PST by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: lbryce

No VTOL that I could see. But the video was alternately buffering and jerky.


8 posted on 11/23/2011 11:11:13 AM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: lbryce

Looks like a technology testbed aircraft. Those air intakes are very large, and very square. Side-aspect looks pretty good until you get underneath and there looks to be a pylon there for external stores???

Looks like the Russians — in typical Russian fashion — are going to do incremental improvements until they eventually get something approaching the F-22.


9 posted on 11/23/2011 11:20:43 AM PST by Tallguy (You can safely ignore anything that precedes the word "But"...)
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To: lbryce

http://m.yahoo.com/w/news_america/pentagon-successfully-tests-hypersonic-flying-bomb-175200001.html?orig_host_hdr=news.yahoo.com&.intl=us&.lang=en-us


10 posted on 11/23/2011 11:23:45 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: lbryce

Didn’t see any demonstration of VTOL in that video. I highly doubt that has that capability. If you notice, the only 2 western combat jets that have VSTOL (Harrier & F-35) are both single-engine jets. I think that greatly simplifies the problem of vectoring thrust. 2 engines would never deliver EXACTLY the same thrust, making VSTOL much more difficult.

I believe the Russian YAK, that used to be carried on Russian aviation cruisers, was also a single engine VSTOL strike jet.


11 posted on 11/23/2011 11:30:20 AM PST by Tallguy (You can safely ignore anything that precedes the word "But"...)
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To: Tallguy
I believe the Russian YAK, that used to be carried on Russian aviation cruisers, was also a single engine VSTOL strike jet.

The Yak-38 had one Tumansky R-28 V-300 vectored thrust main engine and two Rybinsk RD-38 lift engines mounted behind the pilot. It also had critically short range of only around 800 miles. On the up side it only cost $18 million a copy so you could get ten for the cost of an F-35.
12 posted on 11/23/2011 11:37:51 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: lbryce
It’s going to be interesting to see how fast Sukhoi can get the stealth jet to the international market — and if it does, how much of a competitor to the Lockheed Martin F-35 Joint Strike Fighter will it prove to be?

Considering that the F-35 now costs more than the F-22, and is yet to go into series production the chances are fairly good. If the Russians can actually get something that is producible, flyable and affordable they win. It isn't very hard to win air superiority from a $183 million dollar PowerPoint presentation.
13 posted on 11/23/2011 11:44:43 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: GonzoGOP

Thanks! Hadn’t seen much of the YAK-38 and forgot a lot of the details. The write-up in Wikki suggested that initially the “Forger” was limited to VTOL (no rolling take-offs). But their shipboard vertical landing was “hands-off”! Looks like they’re mostly retired now, or at least that they’re none serving at sea.


14 posted on 11/23/2011 11:56:14 AM PST by Tallguy (You can safely ignore anything that precedes the word "But"...)
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To: org.whodat

Incredible! Thanks very much for sharing.


15 posted on 11/23/2011 12:01:25 PM PST by lbryce (There is no pro-choice option.It's either providing the gift of life or it's murder,plain and simple)
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To: Tallguy
Looks like they’re mostly retired now, or at least that they’re none serving at sea.

The retired the Kiev class so the Yak-38 no longer had a reason to exist. It never was a very good aircraft, it was just all they had that could operate from the Kiev class.

VTOL is hard to do. Only the Brits have done it right so far. The F-35 might be able to do it, if it actually flys. Of course the F-35B (STOVL) also suffers from dismal range and bomb load. It is a trait of any VTOL/STOVL aircraft. Those lift fans and extra engines take up space that otherwise could be fuel or bombs.
16 posted on 11/23/2011 12:14:23 PM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: hosepipe

BTW, F-35 is built around and old Soviet technology.
It is not if it is not seriously upgraded but still F-35 is looking more like a Yak-141 Freestyle than any other jet.


17 posted on 11/23/2011 10:09:33 PM PST by cunning_fish
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