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Newt had his chance, but he blew it: Why Gingrich won’t earn the 2012 GOP presidential nomination
NY Daily News ^ | 11-23-11 | SE Cupp

Posted on 11/23/2011 5:22:45 AM PST by MNJohnnie

I was only 15 in 1994, when Newt Gingrich experienced his last great moment. (Well, before this one, where he’s surging in the polls, with his campaign having figured out how to run for President.) So I don’t really remember Newt’s glory days.

I have interviewed him on many occasions, however, as far back as 2006 and as recently as last month, and every time we talk, I’m struck by how smart he is. Despite that, I can’t get past the nagging voice in my head telling me that no matter how good he would be at running the country, he doesn’t deserve to.

Call me a square, but Newt’s past mistakes occupy both columns: character and politics. From his ugly romantic entanglements to his flirtation with environmentalism to his questionable relationship with Freddie Mac, bad decisions and lapses in judgment have been too frequent for a man of such obvious intelligence.

And yet, for all his mistakes, Newt remains startlingly unembarrassed, which makes those mistakes even less palatable. Though arrogance and a lack of shame characterize Capitol Hill, I’m suspicious of a guy who’s had so many public errors, and is so untroubled by them.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012; campaign; freddie; gingrich; hitpiece; newt; newtgingrich
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To: moose-matson
Yep, when someone ducks for cover and overturns their baby carriage it's hard not to notice..

Of course that is the underlying message here--no one, not one candidate, not one poster here-- has a plan that will succeed in the real world better than what Newt proposed. If anybody has one I'd be all for hearing about it, but I'm not holding my breath given the local talent around here tonight.

161 posted on 11/23/2011 3:56:20 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Pollster1

bump(s)


162 posted on 11/23/2011 4:01:51 PM PST by moehoward
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To: ken5050

And what about benefits, entitlements... especially medical costs as they age. It adds trillons..

No, I think they have to go back..

****

You are right. I wish every American could come with me for one day to tour the large urban hospital I work in.

If ANY illegal is here, there are 10 more family members here “visiting.” Believe me, they come here and instantly get sick on their visits. Same for the ancient village dwelling elders of the H1B visa holders. Grandma and Grandma always get brought in for SOMETHING or other. Then the case managers scramble to figure out what to do because they NEVER, EVER have insurance. And you think they’re just coming from El Salvador? Try China, India, Africa, Ethiopia . . . and any muslim country you can think of.

And believe me, these people want it all ...grandfather needs a new HEART, a new LIVER, a lung transplant ..or is all of a sudden now on long-term dialysis, is in need of long-term rehab, long-term hospitalization in the ICU.

Many of them manage to make it onto the Medicaid roles and just stay there — while on disability or welfare as well.

We are being taken for a RIDE in this country by non-taxpaying parasites from multiple countries. What’s to stop the “red card” crowd from demanding the same?

And we haven’t even gotten to the education issues yet.

OUT, OUT, OUT, all of them! Stick to the rule of law. So far Cain is the ONLY one, perhaps along with Bachman, Paul, Santorum who would say the same.

Americans just need to buckle down, turn off the TV, and vote for the MOST CONSERVATIVE candidate — or we are TOAST.


163 posted on 11/23/2011 4:02:30 PM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: LibsRJerks; hinckley buzzard
One last thought, before I head over to the parish hall.. cooking for 100 tomorrow..

What I think I would like to hear the candidates say..NOW..is that this issue, complex as it is, shouldn't be rushed in the heat of a presidential campaign. It deserves serious thought and consideration. However, ALL the candidates commit to Perry's pledge that within 12 months of taking office, the bordewr will be SECURE..Washington is broken...so before we, the peopel, start to trust you again on something as willing to consider how to deal with the problem of long term illegals, you, government, show us that you can do one simple thing....PROTECT OUR BORDERS....after you do that, then we can look at other matters.

BTW..To both of you, a happy and joyous Thanksgiving..

164 posted on 11/23/2011 4:08:25 PM PST by ken5050 (Support Admin Mods: Doing the tough, hard, dirty jobs that Americans won't do...)
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To: ken5050
What you missed about Newt's plan was the part where, after securing the border, he would set up boards to assess individual cases as to whether they fit the 1986 amnesty class, or came later. That board, which he likened to the Selective Service Boards, would implement deportation of recent arrivals who have no stake here, or have criminal records. It would be a long task but would address all the different classes of people involved.

None would be offered citizenship except those who volunteered and served in the military, which is the case now for foreign enlistees. The only "permanent" residents would be those here under the 1986 amnesty umbrella, permanent already, but who never became citizens, and who would get the "red card" for employment purposes.

By becoming serious about it, and taking action, he would also no doubt stimulate an increase in "self-deportation" as individuals realized the game was about up, and went home.

Nothing there to get hysterical about that I can see.

165 posted on 11/23/2011 4:14:25 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: txroadkill
Fine, but Newt did specify that the first order of business is securing the border. He is not for open borders, that's a fallacy. Could he have answered better or more clearly? yeah, probably. But clearly, he starts with border security.
166 posted on 11/23/2011 4:21:57 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Toespi
LOL! Yeah, That'll win a lot of the independent vote!
167 posted on 11/23/2011 4:23:31 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: LibsRJerks
Nope, you are right at last-- you didn't hear a thing.
168 posted on 11/23/2011 4:24:43 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: rintense
These are your ideas and you actually put thought into them?

"1. Put a time limit on welfare for American citizens. 3 months and you're done. When that time is up and you don't have a job, you go to work in the fields and every other job that 'Americans won't do' that illegals have taken. You will EARN your keep. Eliminate those jobs and illegals have no working incentive to be here." --------- Let me get this straight, you want to take the ailing mother with four kids off welfare and force her to pluck chickens in a Tyson's slaughter house. And you actually think this might ever happen.

2. "Give all illegals 30 days to get out. During that time, all States are given the power to protect their sovereignty and empower all law enforcement to do ID checks when someone is pulled over." -------- Ok. What about those states and cities and counties and towns who don't have the money, manpower or even the desire to do so? Where will these municipalities house them? Who will feed them? (Hey, we can use those FEMA/DHS camps.) Do you keep the parents together with the kids or are they split up? Please answer all.

"At the end of 30 days, all illegals who are captured are sent packing on the next available way out... --------- Cool we can "capture" them, just like in Planet of the Apes. Where are you going to send them? What if Mexico doesn't accept theirs? Do you build detention camps at the borders or drive across real fast and kick them out while nobody's looking? What about those who are from Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala, Russia, Israel, Korea, China, India, Pakistan, Viet Nam, Ireland, Spain, Greece, Nigeria, Sweden, Morocco, Australia, Finland, Brazil.....

Sorry, but I asked for a detailed plan not a jingo-istic wet dream.

169 posted on 11/23/2011 4:47:13 PM PST by moose-matson (I keep it in my head)
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To: hinckley buzzard

But Buzzard, the independent and moderate votes are overrated, who needs them? Truth is, Gingrich is no idiot and his well-stated opinion on illegal immigration, will help him more than hurt him or he wouldn’t have said it.


170 posted on 11/23/2011 5:07:46 PM PST by Toespi
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To: moose-matson

And you clearly have comprehension problems since I said details later. But I’m not surprised. You’re amnesty lover and have put forth no ideas of your own and rely on liberal platitudes for your escape. IOW, pissant off lower.


171 posted on 11/23/2011 5:28:23 PM PST by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: presently no screen name; onyx

Do your own damned search, fool. And I don’t believe you ever liked Palin either because you would know all about his interview as it has been quoted over and over again.

Onyx, would you please post to this moron the exact words of Palin on BOR when she said ‘deport illegals ‘ as well as saying Reagan was wrong on amnesty? Seems someone doesn’t believe Palin said it.


172 posted on 11/23/2011 5:33:04 PM PST by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: presently no screen name; onyx

Do your own damned search, fool. And I don’t believe you ever liked Palin either because you would know all about his interview as it has been quoted over and over again.

Onyx, would you please post to this moron the exact words of Palin on BOR when she said ‘deport illegals ‘ as well as saying Reagan was wrong on amnesty? Seems someone doesn’t believe Palin said it.


173 posted on 11/23/2011 5:33:38 PM PST by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: rintense
I'm an amnesty lover? Where did you get that from? Certainly not anything I ever posted since I never supported amnesty.

Nope, you painted yourself into a corner with those truly silly and utterly un-doable "ideas" about rounding up all the illegals and dropping them off at Mexico's doorstep so now, in the manner to which so many freepers devolve, you try to turn it around by lying.

Nice talking to you.

174 posted on 11/23/2011 5:34:55 PM PST by moose-matson (I keep it in my head)
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To: rintense; presently no screen name
Be careful what you ask for rinny....here's the palin BOR interview.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dlZwM-eZkA&feature=player_embedded

She does everything she can to squirm out of answering the question of what to do with the millions already here then says...yes, have them register with the federal government so that they can contribute and work.

She also told Telemundo the same thing in a 2008 interview.

Have a blessed evening.

175 posted on 11/23/2011 5:49:50 PM PST by moose-matson (I keep it in my head)
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To: moose-matson

Uh huh


176 posted on 11/23/2011 6:00:34 PM PST by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: moose-matson

Sorry, honey, but all those ideas ARE doable. You are a perfect example why illegal immigration will never be solved because you dismiss any ideas that touch taboo subjects.

Everything should be on the table when it comes to protecting our country from an even bigger illegal invasion. EVERYTHING.


177 posted on 11/23/2011 6:03:19 PM PST by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: rintense; moose-matson

Here rinny - You called me a moron, you stupid big mouth ***hole - spreading lies you can’t back up and asking everyone else to run and fetch. Here chump - eat your words.

http://archivo.univision.com/content/content.jhtml?cid=1716304&pagenum=2


178 posted on 11/23/2011 6:17:24 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: rintense; onyx
I don’t believe you ever liked Palin either because you would know all about his interview as it has been quoted over and over again.

Well then, how come YOU can't find it to back up your own words? So much for your rant!

You know what - there are some people - in this case YOU, who should button the lip. You are acting like a raving lunatic and don't know what you are talking about. Go check out the links that were hand delivered to you since you obviously feel the need to be served. You must have illegals that run and fetch for you, fool!
179 posted on 11/23/2011 6:27:26 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: hinckley buzzard

“What is Bachmann’s plan? Quickly now. How will she solve the problem?”

For one thing, turning off the magnets that draw them here, like amnesty.


180 posted on 11/23/2011 6:28:28 PM PST by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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