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To: Pelham
Minnesota. Figures. If you had watched SoCal change from American suburbia of the Beach Boys into a suburb of Tijuana then perhaps your opinion of Newt’s “realistic view” would be somewhat different.

Well, **I** have watched it happen in SoCal. In fact, for around 33 of the last 40 years of my life, I've lived in Wilmington or San Pedro, two districts of Los Angeles that are both majority hispanic. (San Pedro probably 70%, and Wilmington probably 95%) While I didn't agree with Newt and didn't care for the way he stated his position, practically speaking I do agree he's being realistic. There is simply no way a politician could practically pull off 100% deportation... it would never get through Congress, and doing it with executive power would guarantee no 2nd term.

Post debate, the more I think about it, the less I disagree with Newt. Frankly, there is a statute of limitations on crimes far more severe than entering America illegally.

294 posted on 11/23/2011 1:34:04 AM PST by Stat Man
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To: Stat Man

lol. If they are here illegally they should be deported, at the very least the benefits need to be denied to them.

Equating hispanics and illegals is racist IMO. That goes for the side arguing for them too.

If they here for 25 years and never even tried to start the citizenship process, then what? You consider them to be okay somehow? They have proven themselves to be foreign invaders colonizing our territory. They have shown no intention to wanting to become Americanized, nor any loyalty to the country they have supposedly adopted.

“Statute of limitations”?? When they leave or legally become citizens then that is the limitation.


300 posted on 11/23/2011 1:52:03 AM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Stat Man
Newt's being realistic?

There are likely closer to 40 million folks here illegally, not the often trumpeted 11 million. How can an economy ever be fixed carrying that many additional people? To the best of my knowledge, there is no way an illegal alien can work legally in this Country. But, there are numerous ways illegal aliens can acquire Government benefits. By adding more and more illegals to our society, our system of government will eventually implode. I can't see an alternative.

To the politician, they don't truly see amnesty as “humane”. They see a huge voting block, meaning they care more about their own political careers than they do our Country. If they're truly honest in their beliefs about being humane, why not let everyone from an oppressed society worldwide come here? If the humanity argument is solely based upon Hispanics, why doesn't the US officially take over Mexico? Then we could take care of the millions living in poverty while providing stability to the region and acquiring Mexico's national resources.

As to deportation, if our government enforced our current laws, making things far less comfortable, much of the illegal immigration population would eventually self deport.

I had a strong suspicion that Newt (much like the Republican Party) would eventually say something to shoot himself in the foot. It appears that the old Newt probably isn't too different from the revised “Conservative” Newt 2.0.

Odds just increased again for a major Third Party candidate in 2012.

311 posted on 11/23/2011 2:24:09 AM PST by Rational Thought
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To: Stat Man

“There is simply no way a politician could practically pull off 100% deportation... it would never get through Congress”

...ahhh, what say does Congress have about deporting Illegals.

As far as I know, the laws are in place ALREADY. It’s just a matter have having the Justice Department (and INS) start ENFORCING them.

Congress is only needed for crap like Amnesty...and then only until the courts deem Amnesty on the nation (which is why many of us want them OUT NOW).


312 posted on 11/23/2011 2:28:27 AM PST by BobL (Send Rove a Message, VOTE CAIN, no matter what)
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